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Non-amp link to BBC news article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-65700288
A Belfast student has called for Of Mice and Men to be removed from the GCSE English literature course. Angel Mhande raised concerns about racial slurs used in the book, including the N-word.
Professor of American literature at Queen's University Belfast Philip McGowan said teachers needed more detailed guidance on how to teach Of Mice and Men.
Not sure if it's taught still in Northern Ireland but Of Mice and Men hasn't been examined for GCSE since around 2016. Michael Gove altered the GCSE courses and one of the changes to English Literature was that only texts by British writers could be studied. It also meant To Kill a Mockingbird, Heroes and other popular texts were removed.
What's happened is that Of Mice and Men has been moved to earlier in school. So children in Years 7-8 are now reading it. Which is a bit of an issue as many children aren't really ready to engage in the adult themes.
That makes more sense. Thanks
is there a better place, to learn and discuss racial slurs and the significance of the word, than in a class room ?
or should they learn it from rap music ? where it's thrown around liberally like punctation, with no information about why it is the word that it is ?
What they are saying in the article that racism can and should be thought (and is!) but it’s entirely unnecessary and off putting for it to be part of English lit.
Part of English lit is encouraging a positive attitude to reading and literature. Yes it delves into the details but it should be encouraging young people about the joy of reading. That’s definitely not going to happen if you are choosing books that alienate your readers when there are plenty of alternatives that would be more suitable
This isn’t about “banning” of mice and men. It’s just about it not being the focus of the class where this hateful racist language and attitudes would be read out.
It’s a very understandable viewpoint
if we're only reading about rainbows and unicorns, it certainly thins the library.
That’s not the point and you know it. A child who already is likely to have experienced racism towards themselves not being comfortable with hearing casual racism being read out in class isn’t the same as wanting books restricted to “rainbows and unicorns”
I’m not saying that I agree with that of mice and men should be removed from the curriculum (honestly I don’t know what the right thing to do is) but I understand and empathise with the girls position.
it is the unavoidable point if you insist English Lit should avoid difficult topics in order to instil the joy of reading, because literature is filled with harrowing stories of people behaving inhumanely towards one another.
at the same time, arguing that difficult topics should not be avoided but taught carefully, does not mean i do not empathise with those affected.
The main complaint is that for people of colour, to be sat in a classroom with their peers whilst the derogatory words are read out loud is highly uncomfortable for them. I totally can understand that and why this is now coming up as more and more of the UK are becoming multicultural.
It should be taught in a classroom yes, but probably not in English literature class and something more like a Modern History of British Culture class, where it can be explained why Of Mice and Men was originally selected for a GCSE book, why it’s no longer acceptable, why the derogatory words are disgraceful and then why it was removed from the syllabus. This gives an all round education on the subject. Not perfect but it’s a start.
When I was in high school I was told half-caste was an acceptable term in the mid 2000s, and I still accidentally used it till a couple years ago because I was never told otherwise. It was only because of a friend who is more social than I am told me it’s no longer acceptable to use to refer to people with mixed racial parents.
forgot to say -
. When I was in high school I was told half-caste was an acceptable term in the mid 2000s,
dual heritage is the way to go ! and much more meaningful.
I’ll take that!
I can see why, only if it is still being taught as it was 30 years ago - ie without addressing the language used - and I hope thats not the case. I can't imagine anyone doing so in 2023.
If you start pulling stuff for those reasons (and for the record, I dont understand why they are still reading Steinbeck anyway) you go down a slightly dodgy path.
Of Mice and Men is a good novel for lower-attaining teens who struggle with reading. It's very short (5 or so chapters), deals with "adult issues" and is a bit like a "novel-by-numbers" where you can introduce things like setting, theme, characters, symbolism in a pretty straightforward way. One of the problems was that when schools began chasing exam grades in earnest because of accountability, ALL kids started studying the novel including the top end who should be academically stretched by something more challenging.
It's possible to read the novel and see discriminatory language without speaking it aloud. It needs to be taught in a context where the racism (and misogyny and abuse of disabled as well) are called out. English lessons are the best place for this to happen.
There's a great poem that's been taught in English classrooms for years by John Agard called "Half-Caste" where he demolishes the racism of the term.
Teachers - English teachers - need to challenge and discuss racism.
Sounds like I had a crap English teacher then if being taught “half-caste” was meant to frame it as a racist term.
Quite likely. There are a great number of poorly-educated terrible English teachers. Pot luck if you find a good one in a school.
I think there needs to be a certain level of trust with the teachers to cover the discrimination of the book in a respectful way. It's very much the same thing with parents, where simply not allowing access to inappropriate material isn't going to stop their children from finding that material and coming to the wrong conclusion.
There needs to be an understanding in children to know what the world once believed and why that believe is antiquated. If teachers and parents aren't going to teach them then where are they going to get that context from?
Not too sure what they'd replace this with.
I'd assume teachers are extremely familiar with the book after teaching it for years - shifting away from it will take time for them to adjust to... not to mention any lesson plans that they'll need to rethink
Link won't work for me. I'm curious about this, why? From what little I remember it is a really great book. The rabbits George.
As a black person the reading 'Of Mice and Men' nowadays probably is not an enjoyable experience. (I'm not black).
For her I'd imagine hearing certain words being read out in a white dominated class is an uncomfortable experience.
It was a classic way back then......but times have changed and it no longer deserves that accolade.
But the UK/US education system has always struggled with what makes a 'classic'. #Reading #Education #Classic
Contains racial slurs which are a realistic portrayal of how people would talk at the time it is set, but which are difficult for the students to hear repeated in a classroom setting, regardless of context
Theres only so much you can coddle students though, before its just a bit silly
I'd agree with that. It's probably a positive thing for children to be exposed to that sort of language in a controlled environment where the teacher can explain historical context. It's not like they'll be avoid racial slurs forever
Are you talking about white kids, or black kids though? I think the issue is that black kids unfortunately will hear that language anyway, as the targets of it, and that hearing it read out in the classroom is going to be a very different experience for them.
If they also studied a book that contained racist terms for white people, then it would be fair in that context.
However are there any racial slurs for white people that are as offensive as it is for black people? I don’t honestly think so.
Societies moving on, time to drop off mice and men from the syllabus and educate as to why it was removed in a different classroom setting.
Ya for sure I totally understand that. That's pretty much every book published before a certain date at this point, by today's standards. I don't know, I'm glad I'm not the one deciding these things lol.