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Since the latest season hasn't concluded yet, let's only look at plot holes from 1990 and before.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 176 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Probably the two a half billion people claiming to identify as christian while actively opposing and taking action against any of Christ's non-self-serving ideals.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If there's one good thing about Maga it's that it clearly illuminated what a majority of these "Christians" actually are.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are some of us that don't do that. But yeah, even as an adherent, I see and feel what you mean.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That must be painful and frustrating. An old coworker of mine was a β€œreal” Christian (by that I mean kind, pleasant, and non-judgmental) and I often wonder what his take on the last several years would be.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I know what mine is. Nobody is truly thinking about how they "should" go about things, they make the word second fiddle to something else, whether it's public speakers being selective and hoarding their money to supposedly "Catholic" or "Protestant" governors enacting policies that would make even Neo-Stoics give up on them. I often hear about people going through hardships with supposedly Christ-loving families, hardships that shouldn't be there, and it makes me mad I can't do anything. I might be terrified of being a mom, but I'd do it for those people.

A good rule of thumb: The ten commandments > The word of Jesus > The rest of the old testament > Indirect interpretations, with Paul being nothing more than the Christian equivalent of a hadith.

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[–] Skoobie@lemmy.film 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, that's not a plot hole. That's just a seed for the Act 3 twist we're due in about 2 years. When the Vatican incorporates and invades Yugoslavia.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

For real. I am no catholic or god worshipper but i feel like i am living a more religious life then them because I recognize the fiction of Jesus life for the vast inspirational philophies it contains and actually try to incorporate some of it in my life.

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The details around the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand really jump the shark. Must've been a drug-fueled writing session on that one

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When that one aired I assumed they were going to genre-shift into dark comedy or slapstick, but they... really, really didn't.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That DB Cooper storyline was never resolved.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of those. Characters just falling out of the narrative left and right.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The fact the Pepsi at one point had the 6th largest military in the world, and did nothing to conquer Coca-Cola.

Like, why even start that storyline if you dont take it to the inevitable conclusion?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pepsi has also made huge profits in Russia since the west started sanctions.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Yes, they have. That's why I don't buy their products anymore.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are we supposed to believe the largest most dominant military force in the world, Kublai Kahn's Mongol fleet was defeated by some inclement weather... TWICE?? Lazy writing.

[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Inclement weather, just FYI. Although, your spelling also makes a lot of sense in the current times...

Not bashing your point though, that's a good one.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would they just confirm all the fan theories about the world elite running a massive illegal money laundering ring spanning the globe, and follow it up by proving that the same elite are trafficking children for sex acts if they didn't plan to go anywhere with that storyline?

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s like the way they left Deadwood. They set it up for a righteous proper class war and then suddenly the series was cancelled.

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[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A few Prime Ministers have been peculiar plotholes. Harold Holt just disappeared. Whitlam got taken out by a madman influenced by the yanks and nominally working for the Queen. Sometimes it seems the writers just get bored of the storyline and drop stuff.

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[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The whole wrapping up world war 2 using "the gadget" just reeks of writers struggling to wrap up after writing themselves into a corner.

[–] 100@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The end of WW2 was a complex political issue, and the atomic bombs were not the 'press here, end war' that most of us believe.

The Japanese we're holding out hope (stupidly) that the Soviet Union would negotiate a conditional surrender with the united States as the end of the imperial system was unacceptable to them. The US had floated that if there was an unconditional surrender, that the imperial system would stay intact, but wanted it to seem like a US condition, not a Japanese one, because that would be a conditional surrender.

The Soviets always intended to invade, but were held by a nonaggression pact they made with the Japanese. The US pressured the Soviets very hard to violate this and invade Manchuria.

There was literally a Japanese war cabinet convened already when news of Nagasaki reached them. We have actual primary source for their reactions. They did not care.

Only once the second bomb dropped and Manchuria was invaded did some of the cabinet manage to convince the emporer to intervene which was extremely rare.

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 35 points 1 year ago

I don't know about this series, but I play a game with the same name and absolutely hate it. It's hugely pay to win with permadeath and the grind has nowhere near the payoff for the amount of effort you put in.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody has figured out who the Zodiac killer is yet? Come on, people!

[–] djmarcone@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably the stars that are older than the universe.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IIRC, they're too big to have formed in one of the ways we know and then continuously lost matter at the the rate they should have.

So one or more of the assumptions about how they could have formed or how they lost matter over time is wrong, right?

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[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] luxyr42@lemmy.dormedas.com 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_age_problem

We estimate the age of some stars to be older than the estimated age of the universe. JWST observations have also made it "worse". https://youtu.be/hps-HfpL1vc?si=H9tdTD3DJYLkalvx

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't watch videos right now, but the wikipedia article says the problem has been solved around y2k by recalculating the age of the universe, and says nothing about JWST making this problem worse.

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[–] ExplanationExtreme@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What did drugs ever do to start a war???

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the British were able to use drugs to start a war on China once. All in the name of cheap tea.

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[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just to emphasise:

from 1990 and before

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 23 points 1 year ago

Folks can't read past the headline. Truly this site has arrived.

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[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The universe is not locally real*.

*Locality and reality are defined in specific ways within quantum physics, and "not locally real" doesn't necessarily mean 'illusory' as you might expect. Look into it, it's some crazy shit.

[–] Skoobie@lemmy.film 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Space Race ended without closing ceremonies.

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[–] Montagge@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If most people are good why doesn't the world get better without violence?

[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s a saying in German that my grandmother sometimes used, it roughly translates to β€œThe person is good but the people are bad” (Der Mensch ist gut, aber die Leut sind schlecht).

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like that.

Another quote that comes to mind is this, from the movie Men in Black (1997):

A person is smart; people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.

– Tommy Lee Jones, as Agent K

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[–] oo1@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

duck billed platypus

[–] Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

That one on 25th Street that I hit the other day. Oh wait, you said "plot". Nevermind.

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