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I’ve seen many comments and posts regarding the API fiasco on Reddit, with the claim that there will be a huge influx of users when that happens. I’m all for it, but I find it hard to believe that the average or even above average user will make the effort to switch.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As much as I'm enjoying Lemmy, I don't see the vast majority of Reddit users making the switch to anything. Mastodon, Lemmy, and kbin are far too obscure, and most people use Reddit for pino and memes. People just aren't very technologically inclined and Reddit satisfies the dopamine fix for most regular visitors.

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[–] rodneylives@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit is gigantic, and while Fediversal alternatives are gaining users rapidly there's a long ways to go.

A useful way to look at it is, we don't have to defeat Reddit. We're creating a community as an alternative. Reddit hasn't lost a large number users when judged as a percentage of their base, but many of the people who are leaving are the ones who see where it's going, and are the power users, the knowledgeable people, the cool people. The ones who make Reddit a place worth being.

It's the same with Twitter. A lot of Twitter and Reddit users just keep their heads down and use the service, as it goes to hell around them. A lot of people join social media sites because it's where other people are, or it's where their friends are. People who joined when social media finally broke the internet away from being mostly the domain of the technically inclined. Even now, a lot of people mostly use it for streaming. These people may not leave Twitter or Reddit ever, because they really don't care about it. But the people who were big internet users, or would have been were old enough in the late 90s or early 2000s, those are the kinds of people that Reddit, and Twitter, are losing.

Now, there are a lot of people on Twitter who I'd have thought have jumped ship by now, but to many people admin decisions feel like they have only a theoretical impact unless it affects their experience, or themselves, directly. The best thing that can be done is just keep on being awesome, and make cool posts that can't be found elsewhere. Once a community gets a reputation for that, people will come naturally.

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[–] fxiletjj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I already switched over. But I guess majority of 3rd party app users are still waiting for the last moment.

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That can mean bad things for the servers and people who administrate them. I believe most of them isn't prepared for high traffic spike - even though Lemmy is fairly lightweight, huge amount of new user would mean de facto DDoS.

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[–] jray4559@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Doubtful, to be honest.

Most who have used 3rd Party apps have already migrated or found some other solution. Those who don't care are still using the official app, and, to be frank, despite what everyone says, the quality content hasn't decreased by that much.

It's still half Twitter and TikTok reposts, and one-fourth 'advice subs' (creative writing), like it's been for several years before this debacle.

Hell, maybe this is a good thing in some ways, where that kind of content can hopefully fall by the wayside over here, instead of choking communities out like it does in Reddit. (I have over 50 popular subreddits on Boost filtered out to avoid this stuff, and it's still not enough to get rid of all of it)

[–] DrChickenbeer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

@Crylos if even half of a single percentage of Reddit users come over, that would be a staggering number of new users.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possibly, if 3rd party apps go dark and that's all some people were waiting on. I assume a good chunk of people already started looking for alternatives around 6/12 when the blackout started, so I doubt it'll be a huge bump. Anyone looking for alternatives after the 30th are the ones who may not even be that serious about it or don't care about the protest, so they're just as likely to just move over to the "official" Reddit app (formerly a 3rd party app itself called Alien Blue), just as Reddit intended.

I was already planning on deleting my comments/posts/accounts on 6/30 if Reddit didn't back down, and given that their behavior has gotten even worse I'm not seeing any reason to back down from that. Hell, at this point, even if they backed down on the API thing, just their behavior since 6/12 has shown me that I don't really want to have anything to do with that site anymore.

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[–] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No. There are good things to look at on Reddit, and effectively nothing around here. This place is incredibly barren and will continue to be unless creative people show up to populate it... which they won't when it's a nightmare just to get an upvote to stick,

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[–] razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably the first since that is the day the bullshit goes into effect.

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[–] miked@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the user count will increase similar to Mastodon's when Muskrat took over Twitter. There will be a large increase the first few weeks and then it will slow down. People will join and leave Lemmy but a good number will stay.

If your not familiar with Mastodon it is the Fedeverse's answer to Twitter.

[–] lauric@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Musk actually did a good thing with Twitter. Reduced cost, got rid of the ridiculous amount of staff and restored freedom of speech.

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