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Oregon's Senate has repealed a 72-year prohibition against self-service gas, with new legislation requiring gas stations to staff half the available pumps, while allowing the rest to be self-service. The bill, responding to industry staffing shortages, also prohibits charging more for full-service than self-service, likely leading to the phasing out of full-service pumps.

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[–] darknavi@vlemmy.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smell that? That's the smell of FREEDOM.

And the smell of gas because I've never learned how to pump and it's all over the ground please send help.

[–] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... you stick it in your car, pull the lever, and wait for it to stop on it's own ... hardly needs learning.

[–] battleoften@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was doing it before I was 12 because my mother was disabled. If you can’t figure it out, you might be an idiot.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Gas is literally just sex for your car. You stick the rod in the hole and jiggle it til your $20 deposit is up.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly these days it's trivial to look up how to do something. I get that not everyone is technically inclined, but it's just as easy to look the next car over and watch what they are doing.

I have more trouble figuring out why the pump won't read my card than putting the gas in my car.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Don't forget to pull the terminal before.you insert your card, card skimmers are huge issues at gas stations

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now we can only make fun of New Jerseyans for being too stupid to be trusted around a gas pump.

[–] goolie@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Hey leave us alone. We’ll figure it out in another 72.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Omg, tell me about it. Moved to NJ and everyone is clueless when they leave the state and have to pump... Ok not everyone, but the number is above zero. 👍

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you have not experienced the lines for gas at an Oregon Costco, you've really missed out. End of an era.

[–] AnotherPerson@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

People in Oregon really don't believe me when I saw I never waiting in line for gas when I lived in other states.

[–] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Costco has lines regardless of whether it's self serve though

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup, only place I've ever waited for gas (outside of a hurricane or blizzard being imminent) is in NJ. Then they always try to divert me into a lane with the pump on the wrong side which I'll have none of because I know they'll just drag a dirty rubber hose across my paint, it's bad enough that they touch my car at all. (Though I realize that's mostly a me issue)

[–] elbrar@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

oh no I'm right there with you. I used to try to avoid having to stop for gas in NJ or OR at all costs until I got a car that wants 93, but we only have 91 in CA but they have 92 in OR so I just deal with it (it gets noticeably better fuel economy).

[–] MoonRocketeer@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

We're self-service in California and our Costco gas queues are also asinine. Are they just that much worse over there?

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in Washington. I remember one time crossing the border from Portland, Oregon to Vancouver, Washington. What's funny is that Portland has two rivers. The Willamette to the South and the Columbia to the North. The Columbia is the border with Washington. During that trip I stopped for gas, and figured that since I just crossed a river I must be in Vancouver. I got out and started pumping gas only for a guy in an orange vest to come screaming at me to stop like I was about to blow the place up, which is weird because as many of you know it's not that hard to pump gas? Turns out I was in the strip of land in Portland that's between the Willamette and the Columbia, and so I was still in Oregon.

Just a little funny anecdote about this whole situation.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So... are we celebrating a bunch of people losing their jobs?

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 8 points 1 year ago

Its a dumb job

[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article snippet quoted here literally says this was in response to industry staffing shortages...

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no shortage of workers. There is only a shortage of employers willing to pay.

[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's entirely beside the point here. Nobody is celebrating people being laid off en masse. The law changed because these jobs were apparently not being occupied to begin with,

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then this is a capitulation we shouldn't have made. These companies tried to coerce us into letting them get away with not hiring people, despite us having a law intended to make them hire people, and we have allowed them to get away with it.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

"Make work" laws are terrible policy.

You're forcing consumers to pay a human who is only there to inconvenience them.

There's a reason we don't have laws protecting buggy-whip makers. People need to find new jobs that provide value to society.

[–] ipha@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Celebrating the removal of an asinine law that forbid people from doing a common task themselves.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Pointless jobs, yes

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, I live in a country where probably over half the gas stations have no personnel at all.

I remember one service station testing the concept of having staff help with gas, and it felt really awkward.

[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in Oregon and moved here from a self pump state, personally I love not getting out of my car to pump gas. Doubly so when it's shitty out. I hope most places around here keep the gas pump people. They probably will tbh because native Oregonians would have a fit, especially old timers.

[–] Elindio@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does it lead to the phasing out of full service pumps when it requires half the pumps to be full service?

[–] battleoften@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Because in another 5 years the staff shortage will be so bad that they can’t staff the pumps, and their Congress will then remove full service pumping from law completely. Granted, some stations (the largest nicest ones with lots of convenience store offerings) will probably keep some full-service pumps as it will always help with bringing people into the store, but a lot of the rural stations will definitely become self service only.

[–] Geekmonster_@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Didn't they already allow self service in rural areas or was this somewhere else? I feel like I saw videos of people pumping gas in weird ways.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but only for the last couple of years. Most Oregonians have never pumped gas.

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