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[–] Oneeightnine 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I expect we'll see the legalization of weed and a massive round of housebuilding in the next manifesto then.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of which will become unfeasible about 5 minutes after their victory if they won.

[–] Oneeightnine 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no magic cannabis plant - Rishi; probably.

[–] mannycalavera 4 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure there is 😅

[–] Blake 22 points 1 year ago

Doubt it, Tories make a shitload of money from medical cannabis and property. More likely to be something like help to buy and climate “commitments” that immediately get forgotten when they’re in power.

[–] mannycalavera 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would be super surprised if any party added this to their manifesto. Labour absolutely will not. I imagine the Greens might, but even then I'd be surprised. Same with the weed.

[–] Oneeightnine 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah they won't, I was being sarcastic. That said, I don't understand why it's such a difficult issue for UK politicians to deal with. Believe me, I'm not really a proponent of the stuff, but it seems like a relatively nothing issue for the vast majority of the population and yet they seem so far behind the times with regards to the legalisation of the stuff.

[–] mannycalavera 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it boggles the mind. I think about ten years ago there was a study to reclassify drugs based on actual harm. No guesses for what the government did with that study. That's right they sacked the lead scientist 😬.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/30/david-nutt-drugs-adviser-sacked

[–] 50gp@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

many people are really brainwashed by the policy that drugs are evil, banned and forbidden by law and should therefore stay banned, no discussion allowed

[–] Lifebandit666 8 points 1 year ago

I'm a big proponent of legalisation, just saying.

many people are really brainwashed by the policy that drugs are evil, banned and forbidden by law and should therefore stay banned, no discussion allowed

This is why I'm a big proponent of legalisation. I was brainwashed into thinking like that, then i smoked weed and didn't die or become a psycho. I am lucky enough to have the brains to then not move on to coke and heroin, but a lot of people do.

And that's why the war on drugs doesn't work. Legalise the stuff that's fine and then maybe we can trust the system again.

Legalise weed, tax and regulate it, oh and we have these harmless friends that grow in autumn EVERYWHERE let's legalise those too. We can grow em in a building so we know they're not the ones that look the same but kill you (they don't look the same) so let's stop that argument before it starts.

Then for harder drugs we can follow Switzerland and have legal injecting rooms with taxpayer funded medical smack, and humanise those people back into society.

"Oh no, but i don't want my taxpayer money going on SMACK!" it already does, we just call it fucking Morphine and Cocodomol. If we fund the smack heads we stop em robbing our houses for smack money, and it would be lovely to go shopping without someone asking for spare change for their addiction, they could spend their time working and contributing to society instead.

Not in this country with this media and these politicians though eh? Sounds like too much sense.

[–] Jabbawacky 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have a medical licence for 21% THC cannabis flower (to grind and vape) from Sapphire/curaleaf. It's, without exaggeration, saved my life. Healthier than ever before, and it's even completely eliminated my need for any other medication and id also credit it with my giving up alcohol fully.

I can actually live a normal life now. It's cruel to have it illegal when the killer that is alcohol is everywhere.

[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

In some ways, alcohol is more damaging to society than drugs and part of British society glorifies drunken stupidity. But more importantly, congrats on going sober!

[–] correcthorsedickbatterystaple@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. we take as much wealth as possible by siphoning it from the populous.
  2. the portion of the populous that had wealth enough to siphon is dying year by year.
  3. the portion of the populous that's young has no wealth because we've been siphoning it already.
  4. we've siphoned all the wealth there is and we still aren't satisfied.
  5. pikachu face.
[–] megalodon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm waiting for the "it would be worse under labour" group.

[–] FatLegTed 7 points 1 year ago

Oh, they are there. On FB certainly, possibly here as well.

I've seen posts still bleating that cOrByN would turn us some sort of 1950s USSR.

Ignorance is strength.

[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

"Previous Labour spending..."

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 19 points 1 year ago

They can write what they like in the manifesto.. nobody believes they'd actually do any of it.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hopefully there will now be at least 3 generations of people who won't vote Tory.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And after that, Tories will be a sidenote in the history books.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We can hope, but history says otherwise 😭

[–] lemonflavoured@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The party system is too entrenched. The last time it changed was because of a combination of WW1, votes for women and David Lloyd George being a twat.

[–] sirico 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm hoping my generation doesn't succum to the age = right-wing trope

Please Christ. I'm an atheist but I'd happily sell my soul to Satan to ensure that if I thought he was there to buy it

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll get Rishi to do some tiktok dances.

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Nah, that sounds like a Grant Shapps job.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Senior Tories are urging Rishi Sunak to use his next manifesto to address their party’s alarming unpopularity among younger voters, amid increasing concern that the Conservatives could be “sunk” without urgent action to win over the under-40s.

Tugendhat said any offer to young voters had to include sticking with the party’s commitments to achieving net zero by 2050, despite increasing unease over the policy on the Tory right.

His comments come as the latest Opinium poll for the Observer reveals Labour maintains a 15-point lead over the Tories with a crucial party conference season now rapidly approaching.

Liberal Tories have been pushing hard for the party to show more enthusiasm for pro-green policies, after Sunak recently criticised a “hair shirt” approach to tackling the climate crisis.

The chancellor, Jeremy Hunt, has also vowed not to adopt Joe Biden’s “subsidy bowl” approach, referring to the president’s Inflation Reduction Act designed to help the US achieve a net zero carbon economy.

Meanwhile, Sunak is also under pressure from the right of the party not to abandon the pensions triple lock, with the Treasury understood to be exploring ways for a temporary tweak to the policy that could save £1bn.


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[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Senior Tories warn: ~~if~~ we can’t offer policies to win over young, we’re ‘sunk’

[–] Hogger85b@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sadly I think more young people low 20s are turning more right wing thanks to their immersion in internet culture influenced by right wing think tanks and Russia.

In our office it is the millennials and Gen X that are left and the apprentices (18-25) spout incel, conspiracy theory and trump type policies they get online from USA. The most right wing Brexit was rights, drown the immigrants in the channel, what's the NHS ever done for me, are that cohort.