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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In all seriousness, I genuinely feel like the demographics of those making over 250K/year outside of Silicon Valley (proton is from Switzerland which is a center-right country), and outside of the arts industries, is probably bare minimum of lib-center, and probably most likely to be at least fiscally conservative, if not socially as well. Those kind of people are more concerned with maintaining their financial position than the issues plaguing the income classes that the individual has graduated out of.

I don’t think you’re going to find many CEOs that aren’t at least a little right of center or self serving in their business interests.

Getting to the top 1% income bracket is a lot easier than maintaining that financial position.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I was mulling moving everything from Google to Proton. Guess I'll keep my money for now.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Whatever you choose, remember that ease of migration is important. So for email buy your own domain name and use a service like mailbox.org that allows custom domains and full IMAP access.

[–] Snothvalpen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell from posteo's own FAQ site, they do not allow custom domains. I'd really consider swithcing to them otherwise. Do you use posteo?

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

I literally just asked their support about this last year and they confirmed they intentionally don't offer this option.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Woops I think I was thinking of mailbox.org who does support domains.

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

is tuta the new pick for custom domain email?

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[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i wanted to move my google stuff to Proton this year as a Backup for my self hosted stuff. Shame, seems like I need to put a little more time into managing my self hosted stuff

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[–] avieshek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Just looking for a free alternative..

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -2 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Wow, lots of people on Lemmy just look at screenshots of text and dont read anything anymore.

I dont think he said anything controversial. Read what he wrote.

He's not supporting Trump or the Republican party in general. He is calling them out for selecting someone good on antitrust. That's not controversial.

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Ive been using proton for a little more than a year now and I think that the service is one of the best out there. That, and their privacy guides in their blog are great as well. I think abandoning ship this early isn't really a need. I've abondonded things like Plex for jellyfin due to Plex starting to feel very commerical. As others have pointed out, the governing of the company may keep one individuals views from interfering with the products. With that said, if your beliefs swing opposite, i see how it can leave a bad taste and make it worth keeping an eye on the direction of the company.

[–] myrmidex@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

So long, and thanks for all the fish

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