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So, Starfield was a disappointment (in my opinion). The story isn't interesting. The lore and world-building do not make sense. The game mechanics do not mesh together. (And it doesn't run well on the Steam Deck.)

But the promise of Starfield? The big space game? The big space RPG where you can play as Captain Reynolds type character? That's something I can get behind. I want to traverse space, visit different planets, get lost, meet interesting characters, solve their problems, and shoot some stuff. Two games come to my mind when I think of this:

  • No Man's Sky
  • Mass Effect

I've only played a few hours of No Man's Sky, but I think it does space traversal well. To put it bluntly, flying from planet to planet without interruption is better than fast travel. But the gameplay loop did not

Mass Effect nails the space adventure side of things. You visit multiple interesting places, you meet different people with curious problems, and you solve these problems (mainly by shooting). But it's a typical Bioware game: The places you visit are small and confined, and there are (comparatively) few of them. The space traversal is done by clicking a few buttons in a menu.

My question is: Are there any “big space games”? Are there any games that deliver on the promise of Starfield? What are your favourite sci-fi RPGs?

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I vote for Elite Dangerous...

It's 10,000 miles wide and an inch deep, but that's still a lot of water.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Glad you acknowledge the major problem. I found that once you realize how little there actually is to do in every system, and how similar it all feels, the illusion is destroyed and there's very little besides PvP that's still interesting. If they could somehow roll in some of the bigger systems from EVE Online that would be sick, but the expansions have shown that mostly what they care about is having an easily maintainable product, not an exciting one.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I enjoyed Starfield, but it wasn't anywhere near good enough to put the same hours into it as most Bethesda games. It had such potential, but they dropped the ball.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Elite Dangerous: Best space travel, strap on your VR, put on a virtual monitor playing star trek into your cockpit and stand in awe of how gigantic planets truly are. It has fallen under mismanagement and its mid to late game is terrible. But for the price it's great.

X4: Space sandbox game from the legendary studio behind... the x series. Fantastic galaxy sim where you can do whatever. Hunt bounties, be poor space trader who converts all their life savings to silicon wafers only to find out nobody is buying them or become ceo of the entire space. Only negative for me is it would be the perfect game if it had open space and orbiting planets and all.

Star Sector: basically mountain blade in space. Not on steam.

Space Engineers: Build your own spaceships and do whatever. The resources are more befitting of an automation game and you can automate.

More niche games: Astrox: Even online but singleplayer. Objects in space: Abandonware that takes an interesting approach to space travel. Delta v: rings of saturn: hardest sci fi space mining simulator around the rings of saturn. Starship EVO: very early access but has the best ship building system I've seen so far and ring worlds.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Star Citizen will get a story mode called Squadron 42 witch should be feature complete and it has a star studded Hollywood cast. It looks worthwile but it won't be here for at least a year.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Star citizen right now is great if you have a group of friends to play with. You can divide up work, do your space cowboy stuff. You and your friends just need a high tolerance for jinky systems

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah the prologue level they showed looked incredible. I really hope they can give the game all the polish it needs, after so long in development they absolutely need to release something with quality to match.

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[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Duskers. A game that seems to be inspired heavily by the aesthetics of the first Alien movie. Instead of one terrifying xenomorph, there are four (?) different kinds all working independently to exterminate humanity. You're at the point in the story where they've basically succeeded, and you're trying to figure out what the heck happened. You get to do some basic scripting as well!

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Elite Dangerous

[–] NerfHerder@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

SpaceBourne 2

SpaceBourne 2 is a single-player, open-universe RPG and third-person shooter game with an abundance of features, including role-playing, mining, trading, piracy, crafting, and deep exploration. The story picks up where it left off in SpaceBourne, but now the player's goal is to build a new empire in the galaxy, with the methods of doing so being completely up to the player.

star trek online. you could technically warp to destinations rather than fast travel but it would be hard to keep that up and ignore them. It even has a race event where the ships have to visit major planets and locations and it even allows for transwarps but because of the race nature you at best can use it for a shortcut or two to optimize the path. They used to have events with hourly rotations and just being up and watching the space map was sorta neat as you would see all these ships trying to do the race. They switched to a format where people could choose it more whenever they want though so it lost that particular community effect.

[–] korendian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know there has been some controversy around it, but Star Wars Outlaws might be worth a look.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] korendian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why not? Seems like a fun adventuring game that lets you travel from planet to planet solving problems/doing tasks for people. Seems similar to what the OP is looking for.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not fun and the writing is bad.

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