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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 33 points 1 day ago

Doesn't matter - dems lost because people are constantly hearing the right's narrative over and over and over again, reinforcing the idea that it's reality.

It reminds me of how the majority of Americans thought the ACA was actually called Obamacare by Obama because he must be so vain, but now it's on a massive scale.

We live in a world where people get to choose what is real and what is fake, and that choice is largely based on which idea is more entertaining, more emotionally satisfying to them. The right is capitalizing on this and the left is being left devastated.

The popular quote used to be 'reality has a well-known liberal bias'. Well, now reality is whatever makes me feel angriest or scaredest and that has a well known conservative bias.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Misner said it was a difficult decision to vote for Trump. He said the point of the Abandon Harris campaign was to punish the Democrats for supporting Israel during its war in Gaza, which the campaigners view as a genocide, and he hopes the Trump campaign will be more willing to negotiate with group leaders.

Vindication feels awful here, honestly.

“I think the biggest problem is that your messaging to Arab Americans can’t just be ‘Trump’s a fascist, Trump is Hitler. Big, scary orange man, vote for me.’ Part of being a part of the American political system is being able to separate yourself from your opponent and lay out a better vision. And she did not do that,” Abdelrahman said.

  1. Negative messaging works, as much as people like to pretend it doesn't.

  2. If you saw a literal fascist openly declaring fascist things, and your response to the milquetoast opposition is "Well, you're not seperated enough, stylistically", you're not much more than a fascist enabler.

  3. In what fucking way is "Not fascism" not a better vision than "Literal fucking fascism"?

“She could have at least called for a ceasefire,” Khan said. (Harris repeatedly called for a ceasefire during her campaign, including during her Democratic convention speech.)

Ah, it's just like being on Lemmy!

“Even in politics, humanity should be the first and the foremost thing to to be respected, to be valued, right? And [the] Democratic Party clearly, clearly, for an entire year showed us they do not care about human life,” Khan said. “They do not care about their constituents, how they feel about the massacre.”

Ah, yes, humanity is the first and foremost thing to be respected, which is why LGBT Americans have been served to fascists on a silver platter as a protest vote. Peak humanity.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Their idiocy knows no bounds.

"To punish the democrats for supporting Israel..."

Which Trump has approved of for years and provided the same support. They named a settlement Trump Heights in occupied territory to honor him for God's sake!

The rest....

I'm so sick of people not doing their own research. The complete failure even just to member as far back as 4 years. That and the single minded focus of these morons. The sheer ignorance of people and the pig headed stubbornness to actually change their mindset when presented with irrefutable fact. All of that is what's truly killing our country.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign said in a statement.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jfc, she did lay out a plan with details, she did call for ceasefire and a two state solution, god I can’t take this shit.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Whose job was it to get that message out?

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“President Trump, he continuously came and he was in the community. While I don’t believe that he’s going to enact policies that will benefit the community, he at least showed that he was willing to show up for the community,” Misner said.

Not only will his policies not benefit the Arab-American communities in the US, they will end up actively harming them, as well as any chance of Palestinians even having a tiny slice of their own in the Middle East.

Congrats, Misner, you played yourself.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did they forget about his travel ban for Muslims? Trump made it clear he hate their kind and is a racist. Why are they surprised? For fucks sake he told Israel that he hopes they finish the job and that gaza make great real estate for them. So they deserve what they get.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

It's hard to feel bad for the people that Voted for Trump, and are now going to be hurt by him. All the information was there, and they refused to accept it in favor of an alternate , counterfactual reality.

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is amazing. Kamala didn't do enough so we are going with the guy who has literally said he will fuck up everything we stand for.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I actually think this is a very important lesson for Democrats: if you expect voters to vote rationally, you will lose. You can't win by trying to appeal to people's intellect and reason, you have to try and appeal to emotions and passions. If that sounds potentially dangerous, that's because it is, but unless they're willing to abandon democracy, I don't see any other option.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I kept saying since last year Biden was throwing away his campaign but noooooooo, its the voters who are wrong.

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