On the other hand, a failure to make assumptions about what someone is saying leads to people being able either to willfully misrepresent their positions ("Oh, I don't hate waffles, I just bring up how the world would be better without waffles in every conversation, no matter how tangential!") or unintentionally fail to see the necessary implications of their statements ("I'm not saying waffles are better, I'm just saying pancakes are worse!")

All language has some ambiguity, which necessitates assumption in communication.

[–] oshu@lemmy.world 2 points 24 minutes ago

I just ignore and block of it contonues. I got no time for people who are responding to the voices in their head instead of what I'm actually writing.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

You hate Lemmy????!

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm convinced that most people don't read anything before sharing their opinion. An opinion with zero relevance or weight is absolutely useless.

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but I preffer the pineapple before the pizza, that way the mass feels saltier.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

So you hate pepperoni?!

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

DEADASS!!!

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience, this happens way less on Lemmy than on Reddit before the IPO.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

i can’t speak to the frequency but the tone is definitely different when it happens here compared to on reddit, probably influenced by the demographic and field of interest differences. the ml roots of the place really have echoed throughout the tone of the space, so most of the arguments have a really cynical, high alert, almost superstitious affect to them that i never really encountered on reddit. (some random account i thought i was cool with is trying to like psychoanalyze my recent posts to find my true intentions? i gave up on that convo)

your mileage may vary, of course!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

your mileage may vary, of course!

Blocking all of .ml makes your experiences vastly more pleasant

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

laughs in tumblr

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think it can be important to see the intent behind words and ask for clarifications. Oftentimes people are not direct about their opinions.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago

yuh, totally! i even experienced an example of your counterexample recently https://lemmy.cafe/post/10752342/8934173

egg on my face, i guess i worded a meme so badly it gave 180 degrees the opposite impression (to some). was super thankful to this user for being transparent and helping me identify what part to edit.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

TBF, I understand this annoying kind of 'reading into it'. at the same time, if someone starts dropping dogwhistles or starts dancing around something in a convo, i am definitely gonna read into that shit.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

If you don't like waffles just say it...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So you admit that you're checking me out? And you wanna mate?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

whut da hell

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh sorry I was making a reference to Xavier: Renegade Angel, where Xavier somehow misinterprets the phrase "Checkmate" to be a proposition for sex, from a clone of himself. (One of those.. "Did I watch this at 3am one night or was that a fever dream?" shows)

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 hours ago

bwahahaha good to clarify i would never have guessed that

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 13 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

This is anywhere on the internet.

[–] IAmVeraGoodAtThis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This is anywhere, period. You can do that with letters, you can do that with speeches, or in casual conversations.

And you're not always wrong about it either.

If you've played Disco Elysium, "Welcome to Revachol". If you haven't, play it. It's an amazing game

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

This is just text written anywhere. There's an art to making yourself understood in different contexts.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah :p bit of a hyperbolic statement my fault

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

Well, the original post was as well, so fair enough!

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Me when I talk to my wife...

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

you too? im sorry dude

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

It's okay 😁 we're both very open about, and aware of, this issue. So I just let her know it's happening and we giggle about it (sometimes). 😄

[–] parity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Idk, she's super cool to me.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

😆 top notch willful misinterpretation 👌✨

[–] socsa@piefed.social 43 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Me: "I like pancakes"

Lemmy: "Only a shitlib western imperialist would think that. Read more Lenin."

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 18 points 11 hours ago

Me: “I like waffles”

Lemmy: “HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO MY LIFE WITHOUT PANCAKES YOU OPPRESSIVE INSENSITIVE FUCK”

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