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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Children use smartphones way more than "PC" computers today.

[–] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I am probably the only person ever to grow up with a UNIX terminal server as my home computer. any crazy IT thing i do now pales in comparison to my dad, running ethernet cables through our heating ducts in a probable building code violation

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 85 points 6 days ago (11 children)

When I was 12 I installed Linux... and now I have autism. And I'm gay!

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago

That's like half the fediverse here

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 32 points 6 days ago

We get it, you use Arch.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So here's a teacher's insight:

Mac:PC:Chromebook Rich---Poor

There is a very strong correlation between the wealth of the kids on my module, and the device they have.

Mac users really struggle to understand the concept of local files without being shown. PC users, alas, snort too much SharePoint these days to be considered healthy - trying to save a word document locally these days is like climbing a mountain blindfolded. As for the Chromebook kids, they do their best with what they have, and given how little compatibility those devices have with the software I teach, I'm proud of them.

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Autistic children will be discluded from the study for skewing results"

"Autism involves a significant deviation from expected behaviour"

They have played us for absolute fools.

(I know autism describes a real cluster of traits, but it is only socially constructed norms that define those traits as aberrant, I am not saying it isn't real)

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago

Yeah, we create the rules that decide whether or not someone is autistic, and we decide what is viewed as "weird" (honestly, everyone is weird, if you were perfectly average in every way, you would actually, in a way, be weird)

[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The weird thing is that the UNIX core of MacOS would lend itself really well to tinkering. It's a shame that Apple lobotomizes all the hardware they sell with locked down firmware...

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

It's why I much prefer MacOS over Windows. The command line makes sense. The file and folder structure makes sense. The defaults can be a little bit weird but a little configuration can help me feel right at home.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, I found macOS to be a lot more technical than Windows. It's how I got my start with Linux. At least changing the default browser changes the default browser. I'll be using macOS and Linux side by side.

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[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Hey! 🙋 I'm an autistic person (diagnosed at age 3). I grew up using Mac computers mostly, because my father preferred them for his work. Although I would encounter Windows a lot when I was at school as well. However, I didn't really know how to use Windows until I started seeing videos on YouTube about it (such as this one). This was when I was around 10. So I started experimenting with different editions of it (Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows XP, etc.) via a pirated copy of Parallels Desktop. I also found out about Linux, and toyed with Ubuntu with a bit via Parallels. I found it fun, and thus considered the idea of installing Linux properly onto my Macbook. Unfortunately, the trackpad support wasn't there. So for my 11th birthday, I asked for a "Windows laptop", and immediately after getting it, I set up some dual-boot with Windows 10 and some fork of Ubuntu called "Pinguy OS". (I spent way too much time looking at DistroWatch.) Then, I distro-hopped for a bit until I finally settled on Void Linux when I was 13. I'm now 18 and am running Void full-time on my current laptop, it doesn't even have a Windows partition. :)

[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yooo, another autistic geek 2006er!

I was diagnosed at age 4 and i started with Flash games on a Windows 7 family desktop. The first PC i could keep in my bedroom was an old netbook with XP and Lubuntu gifted to me by my mom(i only used the linux part tho). Then, later, another XP-era laptop with Linux Mint, before the current win10 laptop i have today(used it with Windows so far cuz i'm lazy and i used to need windows software but i plan to Linuxize this as soon as win10 is discontinued)

When i take the jump i'm prolly gonna settle for KDE Neon or any other Debian-based that can run KDE and then try to theme it to get something as close to Frutiger Aero as possible.

[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ayy! 🤝

I'm also thinking of trying KDE the next time I install Linux. I've been using GNOME for the vast majority of my time on Linux, though I've also dabbled with Xfce and Antergos' built-in OpenBox configuration for a short while.

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 28 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I've been a dev for 7 years. I used a PC for the first 6 years and I switched to a mac the last year.

My experience with mac has been terrible. The file explorer is just horrible to navigate. It took me ages to find the way to go anywhere except the "favorite" folders. Compability with the remote linux-servers has been awful with broken keymappings and shortcuts. Using hardware from any other manifacturer is riddled with bugs. The machine is unable to adjust volume if the audio is passed through usb-c. And I routinely encounter bugs where I'm unable to interact with apps until I restart them. Everything which seemed to work by heuristics on a PC requires a lot of attention on my mac. I don't care if I get a floaty animation and bouncy icon if I minimize a window. I just want alt + tab to actually bring back the apps I select.

I am not getting a mac the next time.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I feel the same way about any machine that isn't a Linux laptop with fully implemented hardware support. I can't stand macos or windows anymore.

In Apple's defense though, they have better accessibility than anyone else - hands down. That's about all they do right IMO.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 36 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm should bring that Ubuntu CD I had shipped to me as a kid to a therapist.

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[–] HonorableScythe@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Imagine paying for a blue tick on Xitter.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Literally the first definition says it's an out of use synonym for exclusion

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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

My first memory with a computer was playing (more like trying to play) Microsoft flight simulator 1.0 on a Macintosh when I was around 8-9. The thing that looks like that:

https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2030596-microsoft-flight-simulator-macintosh-closeup-of-cessna.png

I only started using Linux when installed dual boot Ubuntu on the family computer around 14-15.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 25 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I've learned C++ when I was 10. Should I have myself checked?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (31 children)

Where're all the DOS kids at?! 5 hours and 66 comments, but not a single mention yet.

Never mind solving problems with Windows; shit gets real when the thing boots to aC:\> prompt and you need to know things like the difference between CGA/EGA/VGA/Hercules graphics modes and WTF an IRQ is just to install your games in the first place.

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[–] jh29a@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I don't even know which way the split would go. Many people i know studying computer science first year have a macbook, in what seems disproportionate. Maybe just general university student bias? also apple walled garden* lol *on the iPhone

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[–] Tin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

As an Old, I started with an Apple ][ and learned BASIC. We did get the classic B&W Macintosh computers when I was 12-13.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait, if "Linux"=autistic, what does that make us GNU/Linux users?

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Keep in mind that autism is a spectrum

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

This schism exists in my household. Mrs. Warp Core had access to a Mac and went on to do non-computer things. I had a PC and went full-ASD/ADHD HAM on (what feels like) every iteration of commercial computer tech ever since.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My commodore 64 laughs at the false dichotomy.

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[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

I dunno, maybe it depends on the age. I grew up with a G3 PowerPC and system 9, and I did spend a little time with early OSX (panther). My schools had these terrible Athlon boxes that could barely run XP without blowing up, and as I was leaving high school they were trying to get them to run Vista. That gave me the early impression that Macs were just better, until I went to a vocational school with Ivy Bridge Dell laptops running Windows 7. A friend of mine convinced me to try Linux, and I was impressed with how much easier it was to set up for development, but I ultimately stuck with Windows hosts for gaming, and Linux VMs, then Docker, then WSL for development. I'm still trying to put in the work now for moving away from Windows entirely now that AI is here and gaming on Linux is better. I think maybe it might just come down to having the resources, because if I got to try all three with at least decent hardware, I would have made that journey a lot faster.

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