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lol. has anyone found ways to optimize starfield for their pc, like reducing stuttering, FPS drops, etc?

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 159 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'll believe they actually optimized their PC port when their PC ports start showing some signs of effort at being actual PC ports

No FOV slider after FO76 had one is, to me, a great sign of how little Bethesda actually cares about the platform that keeps them popular (thanks to mods)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They don't want to put the work in for the biggest benefit of PC gaming.

I don't think any PC should be able to run a game well at max settings on release. Leave room for it to still look good five years from now.

And have the bare bones setting be able to work on shitty systems that do need upgraded.

Bethesda just wants to make games that run on a very small slice of PCs, and who can blame them when they can't even release a stable game on a single console? They're just not good at

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

I don’t think any PC should be able to run a game well at max settings on release. Leave room for it to still look good five years from now.

This is the mentality they want you to have. And it's a shit one. PCs should be able to run any game well when it comes out.

[–] Streptember@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Waaaaay too many people want that endorphin hit from setting everything to ultra.

Even if Medium looked exactly the same.

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm gonna make a game where the graphics are basically the same at all presets, but with different filters. Crank the bloom and add a sepia filter, call it pro max or something.

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I'm not super interested how Starfield will play 5 years from now. I didn't even play Skyrim past it's 5th release..

But seriously modders have shown they're up to the task op upgrading the engine and visuals over time.

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[–] Tathas@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah. But at least you can use console command ( ~ tilde as usual ) to change fov Default values are first person 85 and third person 70 Range is 70-120

SetINISetting "fFPWorldFOV:Camera" "85"  
SetINISetting "fTPWorldFOV:Camera" "70"  

When you're happy with what you got, issue

SaveIniFiles  

Or you can just edit

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[–] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 141 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I'm glad everyone is beta testing this game for me.
I'll wait until it's $20 on steam with all DLC for spaceship horse armor.

[–] Granite@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welp. I just found my alt account, or at least long lost twin.

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[–] totallymojo@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago

lol same.
80 fucking euro for the quality of that game is crazy.

[–] mihnt@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same but I'm going to wait until it's $5. Can't give Todd too much money now.

[–] olicvb@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Might as well pirate it at this point

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess Steve from gamer nexus should upgrade his computer when doing test runs? This guy I swear.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just get a 4090ti to play the game that looks like it's made in 2011. What's the hold up?

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Already preordered a 7900XTXTX ready to run Starfield at 720p 144fps in 3 years.

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[–] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 71 points 1 year ago

such a todd move, always with a shit eating grin. "Oh you can't run our game? jeez, have you tried not being poor?"

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is, I did upgrade my PC. Starfield runs acceptably, but not to the level it should given my hardware.

I'd much rather hear that they're working on it in a patch rather than be gaslit into thinking it already runs well.

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I would agree. They should acknowlege its not well optimized and are working on fixing it, especially with Nvidia cards. It rubs me wrong that they are in denial here, especially given their rocky release history.

Heck that think that 50% of the reason they didnt want even co-op or any netcode. FO76 was a nightmare on relase largely because of that.

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[–] red@sopuli.xyz 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

They didn't optimize it for consoles either. Series X has equivalent of 3060 RTX graphical grunt, yet it's capped to 30fps and looks worse than most other AAA games that have variable framerates up to 120fps. Todd says they went for fidelity. Has he played any recent titles? The game looks like crap compared to many games from past few years, and requires more power.

The real reason behind everything is the shit they call Creation Engine. An outdated hot mess of an engine that's technically behind pretty much everything the competition is using. It's beyond me why they've not scrapped it - it should have been done after FO4 already.

[–] stigmata@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Weird how everyone jokes how shitty Bethesda developers are but everyone's surprised how bad Starfield runs.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

And don't forget the constant loading screens. A game that has so many of them shouldn't look this bad and run this poorly.

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[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (9 children)

This game is not pretty enough to push my 3080 ti as hard as it does. I get around 40fps at max settings.

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[–] colonial@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

I installed an optimized textures mod and instantly improved my performance by like... 20 frames, maybe more.

I have an RX 6600 XT that can run Cyberpunk on high no problem. C'mon Bethesda, the game is really fun, but this is embarrassingly bad optimization.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 32 points 1 year ago

When there are benchmarks showing 0.1% lows at <40fps at 1080p on a goddamn 4090, no, Todd, the problem is your engine.

[–] Uncaged_Jay@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Kiss my ass Todd, my 6700xt and Ryzen 5 5600x shouldn't have to run your game at 1440p native with low settings to get 60fps

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They did lol, and that's a really dumb question by a tech illiterate. Optimization isn't a boolean state, it's a constant ongoing process that still needs more work.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what's this about modders immediately being able to improve performance with mods within a week after release?

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[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always irks me when gamers talk about optimization like it was a specific process or just changing a setting

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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (21 children)

While the frame rate I've been getting is not at all consistent, I do get 45-90 fps, which is quite playable with Freesync. Running 3840x1600 w/5800X3D and 6700XT. Not too crazy of a system. From my understanding, it's the 2000 and 3000 series Nvidia cards mainly having issues.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

3060ti here with zero issues.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It’s Bethesda. The bugs also depend on the moon phase, the average length of your pubes and the number of coins in your wallet.

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[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idk what you guys are talking about lol. Runs perfectly with my 4090 13900k 32Go ddr5

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

Who's your liquid nitrogen supplier?

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (10 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGD9dT12C0

Get a new game engine, Todd. Bethesda owns id Software. id Tech is right where.

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[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Ran horribly until I put it on my SSD. Runs flawlessly now.

[–] echo@sopuli.xyz 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you're running new games off a hard drive in 2023, todd is absolutely right and you should just spend the 50 bucks on an ssd

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

SSDs have been the standard for like a decade

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it's Bethesda we're talking about. They've probably done enough optimization for it to run on consoles, but went completely unhinged on pc, expecting modders to fix their game. And they will. I'd just like a polished experience for 70€

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Games are somehow too CPU heavy these days even though they aren't simulating the entire world like Kenshi, just stuff around you, so even though I upgraded my gpu I can barely get to 30fps. Also had this problem with Wolong, Hogwarts and Wild Hearts.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find all the jokes in these comments about having 4090's particularly hilarious considering that the problems seem to be with NVIDIA drivers and performance is better on AMD.

Which kind of makes sense because Xbox uses AMD.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 10 points 1 year ago

plus the partnership with amd

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[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

My PC runs better games just fine.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Am I the only one playing this game just fine on a RTX 2070?

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[–] lazyvar@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Instead of cracking jokes he should improve the piss poor optimization.

Can’t even render 50fps consistently on a Strix 3090OC at 1620p (accounting for resolution scale), what a joke.

Edit: Scratch that, it’s even worse, averaging around 40 fps with HUB Quality settings, so not even on Ultra and my 12900K is nowhere near bottlenecking.

What a joke.

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