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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh huh.

I mean sure, two outlets reporting it, but I'll believe it when I see it. With the Switch Pro/2/U/360/Series N in particular, the leaks were always so outlandish and in the end turned out false, while we can clearly assume the overall news about a Switch successor being in development to be real, any specific piece of news I'd immediately discard and put into the "made up stuff"-folder for the time being.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember when Switch was comparable to PS4?

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[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This report would make the switch more powerful than a steamdeck. I’ll believe it when I see it

[–] TowerofPimps@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago
[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Terrible title. “Switch 2 supports ray tracing and will use upscaling” is the summary. Which is obvious, it won’t be anywhere near consoles, it’s like 1/7th resolution.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not what the article says, the values in the patent are an example. It's not out of realm of possibility to have something that can match at least the Series S when docked while still supporting a portable mode.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah damn click bait titles

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Compared to does not mean equal to... lol

[–] Taringano@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Honestly the swtcih is so far off in performance that if the new switch performs like the ps4 it's already a win.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Oranges are comparable to apples, doesn’t mean they share much in common

[–] legion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And even if some prototype device is, that doesn’t mean the production device will be, once things like heat and power usage have to really be accounted for.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It doesn't even matter a lot if it does have really good graphics capability. Nvidia is good at that (though whether they'd price that where Nintendo wants is questionable). The question is what Nvidia can give in a CPU, because the only ARM CPU out there that's actually interesting in terms of efficient per core performance is Apple.

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[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True, but it does suggest they are in the same league. Not saying it is, but able to be compared suggests that it may be as good in some aspects.

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[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like I'm in the minority when I'm looking forward to Nintendo making a high-powered console for once. The last time their hardware was on par with or better than the rest of the industry was the Gamecube, which was an amazing little system.

[–] darn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

even then, the gamecube had mini discs instead of full sized ones, so games couldn't be as big

the n64 was behind in a similar way, using cartridges when cds were starting to become the norm

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I dont think itll be high powered, thats just the reporter adding something for clickbait.

Im one to believe in Bobby Kottick mentioning that the Switch 2 is roughly the power of a PS4 as he was in contempt of the court when his leak of its performance was discussed. the handheld likely has better cpu performance though vs ps4, as its basically in the same playing field as the steam deck is, both companies who can sit and make thir 30% cut from developer games.

Tldr, dont expect Series S perf, expect steam deck performance with better battery and DLSS support to 4k (i personally believe itll target 1080p60, and use DLSS Performamce preset to upscale to 4k, as 1440p tvs arent common)

[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly a handheld PS4 equivalent of the Steam Deck sounds nice too.

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[–] echodot 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nintendo never makes high power consoles that's not really their area. So I'd be surprised if this is true.

And what does PS5 equivalent graphics even mean? We just talking screen resolution or are we saying it can push the same poly count. I'd be prepared to accept it might get 1080p maybe 4k on a good day, but that'll only be on low poly assets.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Both the N64 and the GameCube were built and marketed with performance in mind (especially the N64). Maybe you're just too young to remember the ads.

[–] km3k@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, Project Reality

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[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 year ago

Apparently the ps5 comparison is because they ran the same tech demo that the ps5 did 2 years ago. But that doesn't really mean anything. At this point Nintendo may still be working with a wide range of specs on prototypes before finalizing a decision about what the console will be.

[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find this hard to believe. At this point Switch 2 "rumors" have just been used for clickbait now.

I think they're working on it but it won't be for awhile.

[–] TPushic@pgh.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Graphine @nintendo If they work on it too long it’ll be obsolete upon release

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Nintendo is of course famous for never releasing obsolete hardware

[–] echodot 4 points 1 year ago

As per for Nintendo

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[–] Rockslide0482@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm in the minority (doubtful since the switch is super popular) but I don't need the Switch2 to be better than current/next gen as far as hardware goes. It's portability, flexibility and funativity are what sells the thing for me. I've got a PC if I want to play fancy pants AAA games. One day, I'll probably have a Steam Deck. I like playing Zelda and Mario, etc. on my Switch like it's a the Super-Mega-Gameboy that I dreamed about as a youth. I sometimes play it docked, but probably 80+% of my game time on it is in handheld mode.

If the Switch 2 was basically a PS5-esque console (non-mobile, regular console), I'm sure I'll eventually pick one up to play Nintendo exclusives, but mostly that would just hasten my purchase of a Steam Deck.

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Even if it was portable but had so much performance I wouldn't want it bc then the battery life would be bad.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't doubt it... Nintendo is always years behind.

The PS5 came out in 2020 and this Switch2 is probably a year away. So that would make their hardware be roughly 4 years old in terms of power. Plus if this is roughly the size of the current Switch, it won't be pushing more than HD-resolutions (current Switch is only a 720 display), so getting PS5-level graphics on a 1080 screen these days is not particularly complicated or expensive.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've got a steam deck and a host of other steam deck competitors that do that and more now.

[–] Psyduck_world@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I’ve got steam deck and ROG ally, both barely do 720p 45fps PS4 pro level games, and forget about battery life.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

The appeal of Nintendo console is first party exclusives and whatever the new gimmick may be (I don’t mean that word as a bad thing, I have loved most of their gimmicks). Powerful hardware just means that it can potentially have a good third party support, so that you’re not left playing just the first party games.

[–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My expectations for the switch successor are reasonable I think

Backwards compatible with the Switch

performance boost when docked (I’d be perfectly happy with solid 1080p 60fps)

Mobile performance of 720p 60fps (lower detail settings than docked)

And I dunno just get a modern fucking friend/online system or at the very least let me integrate discord lol

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I'll believe they made something on the same level as the competitors when the console actually comes out. An unreleased demo console is not something you should be using as a benchmark for how good the visuals are since the product will most likely go through a significant amount of changes in-between the demo and release.

Even then, there's the chance that if the console is coming out a few days later, there is no guarantees they didn't use an old demo console that is outdated compared to what will be released or wasn't made specifically with the goal in mind of overselling the console by pouring resources into making the demo console actually better than the release one.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

meh doesn't seem too likely

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