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[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 212 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Kent Walker, says the DOJ is pushing “a radical interventionist agenda that would harm Americans and America’s global technology leadership.”

I'm honestly curious how this would "harm Americans".

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 103 points 6 days ago

Google pretending they have any other nationality other then “the global internet” is cute in a disgusting way.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 88 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That statement is technically true.

The billionaire owners are Americans.

[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Everyone really does need to have that at the forefront of their mind. When the C-suit, wall street, and politicians talk about "Americans" they aren't talking about us schlubs.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago

It harms wealthy asshole Americans at Google.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer sounds like Donald Trump

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

I fear this is exactly who they're courting.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't fucking let Musk buy it though

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 133 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is the last antitrust win we'll get for years, isn't it?

I know Trump doesn't like Big Tech, but I doubt his admin will punish them meaningfully, but just rail about censorship.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 82 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This isn't a win I think. They are yet to meet in the court with Google.

The DOJ will file a revised version of its proposals in early March, before the government and Google return to the DC District Court in April for a two-week remedies trial.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I keep saying this. In 2 months all this antitrust stuff goes out the window. If people actually bothered to show up on 11/5 Kahn and co could actually get some wins for the American people. Instead, we're going to get more monopolies shoved down our throats.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 113 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Ehh just fight it for a month pay king trump some money and bam their golden.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This is exactly what will happen. Same thing with Albertsons and Kroger too.

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[–] ROAGO@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Why is everyone acting like this is a thing that will happen? All they have to do is wait roughly 90 days and it'll all go away.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (5 children)

What company could actually afford to buy it other than Google, Meta, or Amazon? Unless they are forced to sell it at a loss, which is fine with me.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 44 points 5 days ago (4 children)

By "sell," they could also mean ending up having Chrome just split off from Google, as a new, independent entity that is its own company, without anybody needing to buy it in the first place.

[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How exactly is this company going to make any money?

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

I assume by continuing to sell data.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

Selling user data, selling ad placement, subscriptions for paid services, enterprise-grade support contracts, and the like.

They could also take an approach similar to Google, branching back out from being just a browser into a suite of related tools that Chrome can then convince users to switch to (similar to how Chrome gets users to not just use Google search, but also services like Gmail too.)

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[–] Radiantprime 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

With all due respect for Valve, they don't need this. They exist in their niche, and they're exceptionally good at doing their work

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oracle, sun, tencent, tita...

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Microsoft is probably drooling at the prospect. They’ve been trying to get that IE monopoly back since this happened to them.

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[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 68 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If they're allowed to choose who they sell it to this won't change anything

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 54 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think they should sell it to me.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago

Too much for me, I'm out 🏳️

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[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sell it to Mozilla so they can make it uninstall itself and install Firefox instead in the next update

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Just...please for the love of whatever diety do Microsoft. Fucking sick of their shit recently with One Drive.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a few minutes to learn about our lord and savior Linux?

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Man the Linux propaganda is STRONG on Lemmy. I'll say what I've said before: I use my computer for gaming, web browsing, and managing a media server for my family that hosts pictures and other things. If those 3 things can be done easily without issue on a Linux distro without having to fuck around with configs every time I want to do something, I'm all in. By what I've heard though it's just not there yet. I am super happy Steam decided to go Linux for their Steamdeck though as I've heard thats helped make monumental strides the right direction. Trust me, I want to. Large part of it is I worked tech support for over a decade and having to troubleshoot my own shit is like the furthest thing I want to deal with haha

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

People wondering what Chrome has to do with a search monopoly:

The obvious benefit is that they can default the user's search provider to Google.

But the more nefarious benefit is that, by controlling both the client and server, they can unilaterally decide the future of web standards. They don't have to advocate for proposals, gain consensus, and limit themselves to well-supported standards the way other companies do. They can just do it, gain the first-mover advantage, and force others to follow suit.

If they don't like HTTP/2, they can invent their own protocol and implement it for their search servers and Chrome. Suddenly, using Chrome with Google Search is way faster than using Chrome with Bing or using Firefox with Google Search. Even if Microsoft and Mozilla don't like the protocol, they now have to adopt it or fall behind.

This has happened. QUIC was deployed in 2012. Firefox gained support in 2021.

They're doing the same thing with Privacy Sandbox, and you can also look at browser feature compatibility tables to see how eager Google is to force their own interpretation of every not-yet-finalized web standard as the canonical interpretation.

Edit: Also, JPEG XL vs. WebP.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (11 children)

sell it to Microsoft so they can finally have a web browser that people use

[–] Liz@midwest.social 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the anti-trust lawsuit should culminate in one part of a tech giant being sold to another tech giant.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sell it to me, I'll buy it for one dollar.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

I'll go treefitty

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (7 children)

They should force it to become a worker cooperative. It's the only solution that doesn't allow for corruption

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Step 1: Buy Chome

Step 2: End development

Step 3: ???

Step 4: ~~Profit?~~ Non-Profit Firefox?

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago (6 children)

There's literally so much else they should do, google docs, sheets, drive, phones, maps, earth, calendar, play store, translate, etc.
Good work, continue please.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Hot take: they sell Chrome but keep Chromium.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 days ago

Seeing how tech illiterate some of these people are, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ends up happening

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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