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Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 68 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is a ridiculous argument. Orange man won the electoral college, got the most votes, won the senate, house of reps, the presidency, and the supreme court. What more is there to lose?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Plenty of coping from the liberal corporate media, instead of admitting that liberals abandoned the working class to court the monied interests.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (8 children)

It really didn’t have much to do with abandoning anyone. It didn’t matter what democrats proposed at all. The vast majority of people answers they were dissatisfied with America in exit polls. The economy is doing fine on paper but people don’t feel that way. It was the inability to distance from Biden and provide actual radical solutions to things that got them voted down.

At this point it has nothing to do with working class policies. It has everything to do with voter dissatisfaction and pandering to moderates.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The third dimension of the political compass is radical vs. moderate. People want more radical change, and the Democrats didn't meet them there.

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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is major league copium. The fact is that Trump's opponent got way more votes in 2020 than in 2024, and had the blue turnout in 2024 equaled what it was in 2020, he would not have won in 2024. Period.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Yeah I'm really not sure why these conversations are still going on. It's painfully clear that Dems lost this election because of voter turnout.

[–] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 days ago

At this point it's just sad to see the impotent denial of facts of some people. He won the election and the popular vote. End of story.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It won't matter. He, and his cultists, will continue to claim otherwise.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Great! We can relish the fact that he didn't win over the majority of Americans as our country descends into a fascist hellhole run by billionaires, war hawks and rapists.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 32 points 6 days ago (16 children)

He still won the popular vote.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

By being less less poplar than he was last election, because the Dems were even less poplar

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What do poplar trees have to do with this ?

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their wood is too soft to stand up to the Republicans, the Democrats need something stronger, like oak or maple.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I kinda like the sound of Maplecrat.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what Yew can do for your country!

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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago

You all need to get your "Fuck Trump" flags made and start driving around with them for the next 4 years.

[–] Angrywaffle2@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That's still a win in the popular vote. He has a mandate.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I actually prefer him wining the popular vote. At least this time it’s what most Americans (that are willing to show up) want.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

...or at least voted for. It's becoming unclear whether it's what they actually wanted, but it's too late for regret now.

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