Discovery sucks out loud, federation is all to often at the whims of some admin in a pissing match with another server, even when you know someone you want to follow locating their account is a hassle, it's slower than Bluesky to populate across federated instances, there isn't a good app design out there for free, the web portal is inferior in both UX and UI to even Twitter, I could go on.

If you want to make strawman arguments, go ahead; but, you're ignoring the real problems with Mastodon that have caused users to avoid it.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago

If anything, they just proved your meme is right

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

federation is all to often at the whims of some admin in a pissing match with another server,

Yes, and that's kind of by design. The whole system is not designed to emulate large centralized social media, but to enable content syndication and synchronization across independent publishing platforms. Each site, then, is hosting and serving content published on other sites.

If a site admin decides they don't want to be in a contnt hosting agreememt with another, that's gotta be seen as OK. I wouldn't want to host most people's blogs on my website. Especially if the publishing site had a poor track record of content moderation.

But services like Mastodon bend over backwards to hide the nature of the fediverse, and make it seem like it's all one common place and experince. Most major fediverse platforms now fail to allow sufficient theming or site branding, and reinforce the idea that the local site's community is meaningless, and is to be ignored.

It bypasses the whole point, so that everyone can get all shakey trying to avoid the FOMO.

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

there isn't a good app design out there for free, the web portal is inferior in both UX and UI to even Twitter,

I agree with the rest of your comment but i love mastodon's android app design and the web app design. They weren't so great before but right now, they're way better than either Twitter or Bluesky (which is basically Twitter anyway).

[+] atro_city@fedia.io -8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Discovery sucks out loud

It doesn't have recommendation engine that forces everybody into certain streams of thought, how terrible. You want someone to do the thinking for you? Can't think for yourself?

Federation is all to often at the whims of some admin in a pissing match with another server

The admin has *audible gasp* power and users can choose the server they want? It's almost like they are free. Also twitter, facebook, insta and other sites have never banned anybody because they are bastions of free speech.

even when you know someone you want to follow locating their account is a hassle

I know search boxes are advanced tech for you, but the majority it really isn't that hard.

it's slower than Bluesky to populate across federated instances

"I want my content and I want it now!" OK, addict. Maybe going slow would be better for you. Relax.

there isn't a good app design out there for free, , the web portal is inferior in both UX and UI to even Twitter

Would you imagine that, people who donate their free time and skills to a project without getting reimbursed need longer to design and implement something than those working full time on it for tens of thousands of euros a year. And of course there are users like you that want the free work for free. As soon as somebody asks for money "Oh no, then I'll go to the VC funded alternative where I'm the product! At least it's free!"

Always the same with you people. You want a free alternative that can compete with a product that has millions invested in it over multiple years but won't accept anything less than perfection, otherwise it's "garbage" and "unusable".

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno why are you so hostile to the other person and their points. The truth is that most people, especially non-technical ones, want three things out of any social media platform and here they are in order:

It must be popular. If they can't find their friends / celebrities / favorite brands on there they are not interested in the platform.
It must be easy to use. If they have to jump through any unnecessary, as judged by them not you, hoops then they are not interested in the platform.
It must have oodles of content they like and agree with. If they are presented with too much, as judged by them not you, content that they don't like or agree with then they are not interested in the platform.

If a platform doesn't meet all three of those criteria then it will not achieve mainstream success. Like it or not Mastadon, which I am on, is failing all three of those and will almost certainly remain a niche platform just like Lemmy.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Well put

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want Mastodon to work as much as I want Lemmy to work but as long as all the people I want to follow are on/going to Bluesky I'll be on Bluesky too. At least until it gets entshitified and everyone flees again.

[–] asudox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

yet onto another centralized platform

[–] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Great! I never wanted 20 million users in my subreddits or irc channels or friend list.

We'll all be happier this way. I'm happier this way, anyway.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fiddling while the first real chance at breaking the corporate capture of the web burns because you want to feel intellectually superior to the normies is kinda shit, ngl

[–] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

It would be super shitty if that's how i felt.

I like that lemmy is small, and that people are kinda nice and that if you tell someone that they're wrong about something its not a flame war.

20 million users is going to change that.

Also, if there was 20 million more users worth of content, the cost of running the infrastructure would increase as well.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

why is the fediverse the girlfriend. I mean ewww. it whoudl be like bluesky and fediverse as a lesbian couple with xitter checking them out from a construction site.

[–] mke@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

I want you to know that you were the highlight of this thread for me. Your comment hit me like a stray bullet to the head in Chicago, except I desperately didn't want to go to work, so really, you practically did me a favor.

[–] OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago

Because for some reason people in the fediverse are obsessed with getting others off of mainstream socials

[–] Emperor 1 points 1 day ago

You must do some pretty niche searches on PornHub.

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's pretty good though, there's a whole lot of people on Melon Husk's site that i wouldn't want to see in my Fedi Timeline.

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

He was never our boyfriend

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