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[–] miz@hexbear.net 85 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if Delhi is so great, why isn't there a New Delhi?

[–] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 66 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

what the fuck is sarajevo cooking they are not a large city

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

herzegovina tyres built different. built to disintegrate

actually tho belograd also being on there its probably something about the valleys and local weather in the balkans rn?

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago

Yeah its in a big valley iirc, like a bowl. There's footage of the shelling of the city during the war where they had artillery more or less pointing directly at shit below them instead of lobbing shots into the air. Indirect fire becoming direct fire.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

hey, selling gasoline powered cars and scooters increases the GDP. who cares if you get lung cancer. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 58 points 2 weeks ago

lung cancer increases the GDP

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

Everything about India sounds so miserable, like imagine if they went communist like the Chinese did.

@jackmarxist@hexbear.net

Can you share any good or promising things about India? What I can see from social media seems very bleak.

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

iirc kerala is pretty cool, they regularly elect marxist communists and while it's not a socialist state by any means, they've done good things working in the confines of the liberal framework with stuff like the highest minimum wage in india and a strong protest scene

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 58 points 2 weeks ago

Kerala is run by a Communist Party and they're the most literate state in India. Plus communal harmony is also the best in Kerala.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And their maternal mortality rate is lower than it is in many U.S. states (Georgia, Texas, etc.)

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Lmao us dont be evil and bad challenge

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 week ago

Kerala has done decently well.
The current govt has aimed at eradicating extreme poverty from Kerala by the end of the next year.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/kerala-rolls-out-plan-to-eradicate-extreme-poverty-by-2025-2422621-2023-08-17

It may not be according to Western standards, but it's still a very cool initiative.

There's also the Nava Kerala mission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nava_Kerala_Mission
Nava means New in Malayalam, the main language used in Kerala.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

Kerala is unironically the best state of India and unbelievably based

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Thats whats up

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

imagine if they went communist like the Chinese did

They were Soviet Aligned for most of the Cold War. But the division between Hindus and Muslims eventually created a wedge that western capital could leverage to break the leftist tendencies of the earlier governments, ending with Chaudhary Charan Singh. By the 80s, they'd begun a full transition to neoliberal governance.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

while we're asking questions where can I find a historical materialist examination of the whole Operation Blue Star incident and the leadup to it.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you asking this from the point a tourist? Or generally in terms of the direction the country is headed in?

If you wanna travel then I don't good advice but Kerala and the Himalayas are very beautiful, though the latter spills over to Nepal.

For the other question I would say the outlook id overall pessimistic.

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago
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[–] kittin@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How can you see your screen?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago

Have to blow away the smog with my hands first.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

When it gets that bad, can you climb the smog like cloud platforms in video games?

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago

It's incredible many Chinese cities used to be on that top 10 list, they've come a long way.

[–] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

Holy shit, stay safe comrade.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

"Hey Boss, what color should we use to indicate that one city is literally 5x the next worst?"

'Uh...I guess just use the color and opacity of the air itself at that point'

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I literally do asbestos abatement and I'm thinking I'm not going to go to India without my whole suit.

Stay safe comrade

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A few years back it once hit 500 where I live cause of wildfires. The smoke was blocking the sun giving the sky a spooky orange glow. There were warnings not to go outside, and the air would give me terrible headaches. I had to abandon my apartment because it was seeping through the cracks and I'd wake up sick (actually my first time living with my bf, cute). Air filters sold out everywhere and we had to make due with wet towels.

All that to say, how tf you still alive?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't even see the sun today 💀.

All that to say, how tf you still alive?

I'm kind of dying because the pollution has made my bronchitis go crazy and I legit have trouble breathing.

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[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I was thinking this was some sort of weird IQ thing and was about to roll my eyes. But its actually Air Quality Index, which leaves me feeling incredibly sad.

On the plus side, air this bad tends to produce popular backlash that states can't easily ignore. From LA to Beijing, we've seen huge reversals in air quality in the face of widespread public demand for breathable air. A good foundation for a next generation environmental movement is putting several million people into an industrial smoker and telling them to politics their way out.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

On the plus side, air this bad tends to produce popular backlash that states can't easily ignore.

This is India not China or the US. Most people don't give a shit. The government doesn't give a shit either. Plus the small minority that gives a shit will be labeled as terrorists if they protest against the current Hindutva Fascist government hence ruining their lives as they rot in Jail for decades without trial.

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is India not China or the US. Most people don't give a shit.

I got an earful about how Evil Communist China Doesn't Care About Its People back in 2008 when Beijing had some of the worst air quality on earth. I remember a bunch of noise about Californians living in their own filth back in the 90s, when LA was a smoggy soup. Every dollar-store pundit runs this line until the public anger spills over.

if they protest against the current Hindutva Fascist government hence ruining their lives as they rot in Jail for decades without trial.

Thank goodness the US and China don't have large police forces and carceral systems.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You don't really understand the ignorance of Indians and the way the Indian government rules us.

Pollution is not really seen as a bad thing but is seen as an inconvenience at best if not something to be proud of. Last month we had the festival called Diwali which involves using firecrackers and fireworks. Hundreds of millions of people lit fireworks at that time causing immeasurable air pollution just in the name of religion and culture. The air quality has been shit since then and people still use fireworks and firecrackers because "culture".

China and America don't see pollution in that way. For China it was a huge problem brought by unregulated industrial output and not something they see as a part of their identity.

There is also the lack of good education in India unlike China. People don't really understand the harmful effects of air pollution.

I can go on more but you should get the gist of it.

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[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

I'm seeing the color gradient go from orange to red and then I read the numbers and understand that the scale was not supposed to go this high. This is terrifying. This scale was designed to make Sarajevo look like an emergency.

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I heard once that it gets so bad in November in large part due to farmers in Punjab and such clearing their fields by burning the dead crops on it, something like that. Is that true?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a huge contributor. Agriculture in Punjab specifically is very inefficient and held back by ancient agriculture practices.

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[–] btbt@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Have you tried holding your breath until this blows over?

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But jokes aside I hope you’re ok and that you’re able to make it through this. Also, this is the highest PM 2.5 score I’ve ever seen by miles, what’s going on in Delhi that’s making the air this bad?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

Zero regulations. No oversight on industrial pollution, construction related pollution and so on.

And farmers in the Punjab area specifically burn their crop stubble around this time and all that raw pollution is carried to Delhi by the winds but leaves slowly due to the terrain.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Plugging all windows with hepa filters posting

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Way too expensive for me honestly. Plus the air purifier lobby has pretty much blocked easy access to other filter types like MERV13 which are a far cheaper alternative to HEPA and can be used for cheap DIY setups.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

air purifier lobby

hell world agony-consuming

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this level how long do you have to live?

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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Rare Vietnam L ?

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