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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22332949

JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Never thought I would say this but PLEASE let Trump live another 4 years.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yiu know as well as I do that Vance was the real candidate all along. The orange buffoon will be martyred less than a year after he takes office to make way for him. Vance is much easier to control.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

Vance is also directly out Peter thiel pocket or other areas around their crotch

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] unskilled5117@feddit.org 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Republican vice presidential nominee and Ohio senator claimed in an interview with YouTuber Shawn Ryan that a top EU official had threatened to arrest the billionaire [Musk] if he allowed former President Trump back on X.

“So what America should be saying is, if NATO wants us to continue supporting them and NATO wants us to continue to be a good participant in this military alliance, why don’t you respect American values and respect free speech?” Vance asked. “It’s insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn’t going to be pro-free speech. […]

“I’m not going to go to some backwoods country and tell them how to live their lives,” Vance added. “But European countries should theoretically share American values, especially about some very basic things like free speech.”

The US ranked 26th in the world when it comes to free speech, with several members of the European Union higher up the list, according to the 2024 Global Expression Report.

If anyone is interested these countries are ahead of the USA from 1-25: Denmark Switzerland Sweden Belgium Estonia Norway Finland Ireland Germany Iceland Portugal Austria New Zealand Canada Argentina Spain Czech Republic Italy Latvia Costa Rica Uruguay France Dominican Republic Netherlands Vanuatu

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Insult Musk on Twitter, wait until posts are censored, sue X for not having freedom of speech. How's that for American values?

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 39 points 4 days ago

So, accept cybertrucks in the narrow streets of Italian hill towns, high fructose corn syrup in all food, freedom of hate speech driving vulnerable voices out of your public square, and AR-15s for everyone who wants one, or we throw you to the Orcs?

[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (6 children)

What a weird tactic for such a weird, little person.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

This is expected. A hallmark of fascism is state capitalism — a fusion of the corporation and the state — with corporations administered more like org units of the fascist party.

Many of us have been saying that this is the natural end state of capitalism all along, if it's allowed to run its course.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Oh so they're copying infamous and largely ineffective wolf warrior tactics from China. Good way to make every single country despise and look down on the US.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Looking down at the US is actually the norm for other countries.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh that would go over well. Seems like they don't understand what NATO actually is

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If ur mean to Elon we leave NATO.

A very hinged take. Thank you Kanye, very cool.

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[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well NATO works both ways, and we've seen recently what happens if russia decides to walk into a non-NATO country.

If russia walks into the USA then NATO (probably renamed to the European Defence something) will be sitting back going "hey, sucks to be you. Shame you're not in a mutual defence pact or something."

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[–] PostingInPublic@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We should really start to believe them when they say these things, and prepare accordingly.

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