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What are your thoughts on the Lemmy ecosystem?

I've been trying it out for the last week. I have my own opinions, but I'd like to hear others and see if we have common ideas on what is good/bad/indifferent about the Lemmy ecosystem.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It has been growing, but it depends on the community the people who are submitting posts of each community. It also depends on the engagement of the discussion and whether participation decays or is allowed to decay into toxicity.

I think Lemmy could be doing a lot more than Reddit, like showing who votes what, but people want the ability without the responsibility or transparency. It's ironic because not only is it perfectly visible to the admins, but there are ways you can get a pretty good idea of who's performing them as a normal . It would help not just in the sense of getting a better idea of why or where someone is coming from and prevent false suspicions, but it would also allow you to keep different groups of users whose recommendations might be something you would like to prioritize over other submissions or whose moderation you'd like to favor over the standard. Abusing the transparency would be easy to denounce and moderate, too.

In regards to the modlog, I don't think it's doing enough, the text in the reason field might as well be "word" and the transparency isn't compensating for the lack of a resolution process that many if not all social networks seem to want to skip. There are still things like no notification of mod actions that affected your comments or your user, and some decisions, like allowing mods to ban you, remove some of your comments while allowing others to remain, shaping or serving a narrative without giving you the ability to delete or edit your contributions while the ban is in place, give foreign instances and communities more power than they should have.

There's no way to contest modlog actions within the modlog, and the maturity of the people has been proven to be very, very questionable when they've been outed. It has also adopted reddit's policy of obfuscating the moderator performing an action even though creating an alt is easier than ever and many of them already have them, which works against the supposed commitment to transparency.

But it's very slightly better than reddit's, and there's nothing like shadow bans here. Parting observations, don't feed your carnivore pet vegetables if you aren't prepared to go all the way to seek and get an approved diet and dietary supplements for a bonafide veterinary, and it's funny seeing all the anarchy people not have a problem with the present power imbalance between the users and the leadership within the current system, but then again, they have a nice instance with the label.

Overall, fuck spez.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

There’s no way to contest modlog actions within the modlog, and the maturity of the people has been proven to be very, very questionable when they’ve been outed. It has also adopted reddit’s policy of obfuscating the moderator performing an action even though creating an alt is easier than ever and many of them already have them, which works against the supposed commitment to transparency.

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com helps a bit with that

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I just love it here. But I also know that while most communities are really nice, we rely a lot on two (2) individuals who provide a sizeable part of Lemmy's content (Picard and PugJesus). We should all try to do our part!

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Depends on what you are looking for. I think Lemmy works great and I only really go to reddit when a google search leads me there for something. Though I do miss the niche communities and the "there is a subreddit for everything".

Lemmy is also healthier, I used to just scroll through reddit for literal hours, it's possible to reach an end of sort for the time.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Similar, just smaller. It keeps me from going on Reddit but tbh, I would be back there in a second if I didn't have to use their app or use the browser.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It feels like a more-manageable, more-personal, bite-sized version of Reddit. It scratches the itch, but I spend less time here overall than I used to on Reddit.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's working for me, but might not be for everyone.

I like that when I scroll through the comments, I recognize names. Commenting feels less like shouting into a random crowd, and more like having a conversation at a party where strangers may pop in and out.

There's definitely less content. If you're looking for something to doom scroll, you're going to burn through everything quickly, but for me, I open it up when I'm bored, see what's new, and in 5-10 minutes, I'm all caught up and back to the real world.

Not everybody is looking to ween themselves back from constant social media, but it's turned into a benefit for me.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It works for me because I'm into a lot of the stuff discussed on Lemmy. My biggest problem with reddit was that at some point they seemed eager to smoosh all the subs together into one big Basic Betty fest. For example having r/all be a mandatory sub and having a million default subs...It kind of felt like towards the end everyone was discussing the same stuff on every sub, and it was basically the same stuff being discussed on Twitter (and many posts were just pics of tweets).

I know Lemmy kinda has some similar issues, but because the whole ecosystem is its own niche it still works for me.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Lemmy is fine, but less busy than reddit.

There's the complete absence of u/spez being a cunt, so you have to adjust to the idea of your experience not being constantly downgraded.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

As others have said, as a "front page" with voting and real people in the comments, I like it. It's like hanging out at the one locals' coffee shop in a small hippie college town somewhere. You don't get to talk about everything you might like, and there's a definite vibe, but the people are generally polite, informed, and surprisingly cosmopolitan. That's where Lemmy really shines in relation to reddit, the quality and accessibility of conversation on general interest and shitpost threads. Even assuming they're not overrun with bots, and they likely are, the biggest subreddits are just noise and fake internet points, or at best a passing conversation with a stranger on a bus.

I still go to reddit for (American) football and mechanical keyboards, but for the former I don't even bother participating, because we've got a fun handful of folks here (to extend the coffee shop analogy, imagine a table in the back with a few professors who fondly remember going to a big football school 20 years ago). For the latter I can get the occasional fix here, and I seek that out, but I like seeing the pretty aluminum rectangles and sharing the little bit I've learned with newbies. To the extent there's still a baby splashing around in the bathwater, I'd prefer not to throw it out, but I'm clear-eyed about reddit's trajectory, and "home" is here.

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 4 points 1 month ago

its effective for me, but I always find myself going back to reddut due to the data thats already there.

as the fediverse continues to grows, I'm sure my reliance on visiting reddit will begin to go down

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

I'm here because I like the idea of defederated social media, but I hope there will be further attempts at making even better alternatives.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good:

  • I can use it for mobile without a first party app.

Bad

  • There aren't as many communities here as there were on Reddit.
  • There isn't that much content as on Reddit. Also, while the meme ratio of content feels the same to Reddit, the non-meme Lemmy content is rather small.
  • Comment conversation seems lacking.
  • Moderation tools are rather limited and heavily dependent on defederation to function.
  • The idea of "start your own" mindset in the design makes community formation just as bad as Reddit. There doesn't seem to be any tools for a more collaborative approach to running subs or instances.
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[–] bear@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 month ago

Sure it's the same thing without all the corporate interference. Reddit was small once.

[–] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

kinda so-so, so far. shows promise but I've also run more immediately into what could be called 'reddit rot'. For example mod behavior that resembles russian bot farms, etc.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Nah. Lemmy is nothing like Reddit, it's actually good.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

If you pick a good, internally stable instance, it's great. Local can be more curated to your tastes, All can be more general.

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