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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

The official process was a pain anyway, as it required sending personal identification data to China. Anyone that wants a custom ROM on their phone should be looking elsewhere, although I don't know of any brand that makes that process easy anymore

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, Pixel still unlocks freely.

[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Assuming you dont get the phone through your carrier

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

can we use Google Wallet to tap pay with an unlocked bootloader?

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do with my Pixel 7 Pro. You need Magisk + Play Integrity Fix by Chiteroman at the moment.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah, on previous phones I played cat-and-mouse with magisk and all kind of patch to have Wallet work, but it breaks every 2 or 3 weeks and you have to chase down how to re-fix it..

It's slightly more reliable right now, but for sure, it's going to be cat-and-mouse for awhile at least. Google is phasing out legacy Play Integrity checks, and while it looked like there was no future for workarounds after they deprecated legacy methods, now at least it looks like the community has replicated a functional full keybox attestation chain so there's hope we can continue to workaround indefinitely into the future.

So yes, while you don't need to program your own solution and can just - in the end - install a pre-built fix still, it takes attention to keep up. If the above all sounds like gibberish, it's a good indication of the level of commitment you have to have to keep up with it. For me, it's worth it, but definitely understand, it gets tiresome.

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 19 points 1 month ago

Pixel devices are trivially easy to unlock

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

My Fairphone 5 was easy to unlock.

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[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They have already practically ended it. The official process makes the user jump through so many hoops - registering account, using it for 30 days (!!!), installing their app, begging for unlock through it, getting random errors which the official support refuses to explain (!!!) and only after that having the chance to try to hit the daily unlock request window which lasts less than one minute each day (!!!) - that it is practically non existent. Fuck the fucking fuckers.

[–] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

having the chance to try to hit the daily unlock request window which lasts less than one minute each day (!!!)

Holy shit, are you serious? Can you elaborate on how does that work? You get an email saying you can do that between 3:27:15 PM and 3:27:50 PM or something?

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

No, it's the same minute every day, for everyone in the world. 0:00 GMT+8

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[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 32 points 1 month ago

The source on this is one guy from X (formerly Twitter), from Vietnam.

I mean, it sound plausible and expected, but it's not some official news.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Cool.
My country has limited choice in phone OEMs. Soon the only unlockable choice will be Motorola.
And when they too stop allowing it, I guess I can go fuck myselfπŸ–•

The hell is the point of putting more powerful silicon in the damn things if they'll just keep restricting what you can do with them more and more each year?

I fucking hate tech companies, man.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Member back when you used to be optimistic about the upcoming innovation? Now the only "innovation" is enshitification.

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[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If that's true, the temperature in the frog's pan goes up a little more... soon, we will lose all freedom in the mobile world :(

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

ASUS did this recently & lost a lawsuit in the UK for lying to customers to say unlock servers were only temporarily down for a couple months (lol)

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Glad I didn't buy a zenfone, looked like a great option but that sucks

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[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What a shame. I don't get why they would do that. Didn't I pay for the phone?

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's the problem. You paid only once. The companies want you to pay indefinitely. And if they control your OS, well, they can shove ads or broatware into your face all they wish gaining more revenue.

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Okay. I'm not buying it then

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Xiaomi was the only manufacturer I recently kept buying my "new flagship every 3 years". If it is not possible to unlock, I'm out. I guess a Pixel will be my choice. The only thing keeping me away from Pixel were the low performance CPUs.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pixel cpu is embarrassing though. Very low performance, and they somehow manage to convince the press it's fine by saying it's AI optimized. Wtf..

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To 99% of people, battery life matters much more than it being 8% faster compared to last year's model. Though it can be argued that the pixel's efficiency sucks and that it affects the battery life significantly. For example on my phone I would gladly use the low power mode that reduces the cpu perf to about 70%, except it also forces the display to go to 60hz

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's true, but it's supposed to be a top model if you look at the insane price. So what do you actually get for that money then? I don't know what they are the best at, and also the camera housing is very ugly.

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

The performance may not be on par with other Flagships Socs. But, it can be considered a decent upper midrange flagship smartphone. The pixel phones after Pixel 8 are decent and do not have the bad heating issues of the past Pixel generations.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The real goal that the community should be working on is to strengthen the political efforts to give people the rights to do whatever they want with phones they PURCHASE, and prohibit manufacturers from locking them down so the OWNER can’t make any changes. I would totally accept that it voids the warranty because they can’t cover all the bricked devices that result from reckless modding… but there should not be allowed any barriers between the OWNER and the software within.

And the reason for my emphasis of certain words is that the corporate world is really truly beginning to indulge the delusion that nobody ever owns anything and that purchases consumers make are merely the manufacturer granting them the privilege of indefinite loan. It all needs to stop hard and now.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Another words they want to harvest your data

Anyway I am still rocking a 2019 phone with Lineage OS and it works pretty well. Used phones are where its at these days. Hold on to your working device until it dies.

[–] ADTJ 4 points 1 month ago

Still got my phone from 2020, I really like the phone but the software is creaking, even the custom ROM I moved to is now discontinued and no Lineage available.

I looked at porting something myself but it is ... not trivial to say the least.

Just feels frustrating that the phone still works fine but is gradually losing functionality and I can't update it. Also ngl I really miss having contactless payments. I've tried all the fixes I can find online with no success.

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I feel like I'm limited to pixel phones since they're the only widely available phone that doesn't void the warranty for unlocking the bootloader. I haven't tried roms in a few years but I like having that choice. Fairphones can be a little hard to get. Are there other options? Lineage support would be ideal.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been using Pixels for a while and I've been perfectly happy.

Well, except for my 6 having a green tint to the screen, but that was fixed in a software update a while back.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It was a matter of time. We really need a good(or at least better) company to step up and make a phone. A framework phone would be fire but its gonna take years if they wanna fo it.

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[–] ZeroPoke@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

My current phone is an F5. One of my worst Android experiences has been this phone before I put a different ROM. Never would buy another one without being able to unlock the bootloader.

[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

i miss the early 2010s

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Sad to hear

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Bought a Pocophone F1 when that had insane value per dollar. Had to "wait" for a cooldown period to unlock the bootloader. I had never bought phones made for a Chinese market before. I have never felt more disrespected by a phone company, forcing me to use their launcher for 2 weeks, so condescending. I am a functioning human adult, thank you very much, I'll chose my own software. Never interested in made for Chinese market phones again.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

Xiaomi can suck my balls, the very first automatic updates they force on a new phone is the stuff that sticks advertise EVERY. FUCKING. WHERE. Gallery? Have some ads. Settings? Get yo ads! Calculator? ADS ADS ADS! I can't tell whether they're on par or worse than Samsung with stupid bloat, data harvesting and ads everywhere. The fucking phones are also infuriatingly condescending, treating you like a dumb toddler, showing warnings about "daaaaangeroooooooous" actions you might be doing and putting 30s timers before you can hit "LET ME FUCKING CONTINUE"

Unlocking the bootloader is such a hassle, too, I gave up and used ADB Bridge to uninstall some of the bloatware to make my experience less insufferable.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So that's why unlocking the bootloader on my dad's phone doesn't work. This really sucks, I hope there's some other way to do it because HyperOS is straight ass.

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[–] chottomatte@lemdro.id 5 points 1 month ago

I've decided a long time ago I won't buy Xiaomi phone again unless it's my only choice... if that's true then it's no more a choice Anybody knows what are OnePlus and Oppo polices with unlocking bootloader ?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

sad as fuck if true. i really liked xiaomi.

[–] chottomatte@lemdro.id 3 points 1 month ago

When I was trying to unlock the bootloader, Mi flash tool told me there's an update (v7.?) and gave me the link to download the newer version, when I tried to download it every browser I used gave an error in the website even with VPN Now reading this news , even if it's still unofficial.... I was wondering if Xiaomi retracted the update because it's actually preparing to close the program

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