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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @dirtmayor@beehaw.org):

other media coverage:

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[–] rimlogger@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Hello. While what Reddit is doing isn't great, it's the reality of running a site that's now owned by venture capital to make some kind of economic return for its owners. Running a site like that isn't free, and advertising dollars alone are probably not enough to generate the sort of return that its owners are looking for (or even pay for the its costs).

The core issue is twofold: Big Tech has devalued online services to the point where users are inured to not paying for them, and because of this inurement, most users are unwilling to pay for most online services if they don't seem to be offering a value add. Gaming services like Steam have managed to get their users to pay but that's because they are offering a service that's generally superior to piracy, such as immediate downloads, achievements, and other online services. But no one is ever going to pay to use a message board, and I doubt gimmicks like Reddit Gold bring in much money.

Perhaps the future is found in the past - people migrating back to self-hosted message boards - there used to be thousands of these back in the 1990s and 2000s. Some of them were run as small businesses, others were run as hobbyist projects by their owners. But I doubt there's going to be a mass exodus, and unfortunately, centralization has increasingly become the norm for the Internet.

[–] mobiuscoffee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Perhaps the future is found in the past - people migrating back to self-hosted message boards - there used to be thousands of these back in the 1990s and 2000s. Some of them were run as small businesses, others were run as hobbyist projects by their owners.

I kind of feel like lemmy combines both of these worlds. It is different but allows for people to self host their small communities while choosing to be a part of the larger network (or not).

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[–] Intrepid_Corvid@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Don't forget Relay is shutting down too

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a colossal shit show. They're hellbent on destroying third party competition before the IPO. Next on the chopping block are old.reddit and porn.

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[–] tauonite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I know that there's https://reddark.untone.uk/ for tracking which subreddits are dark or planning to go dark but is there a website that shows the amount of dark subreddits over time as a graph? I think that'd be quite interesting to see.

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