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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Evolutionary research HAS been a massive benefit to the human population. Virtually all medical research requires evolutionary biology to some extent.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

You mean this idiot is dumb?!

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Does he believe the inventions that allowed modern medicine and telecommunications were all inspired purely by God? (who only seems to 'inspire' religiously ambivalent scientists and researchers)

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

KY taxpayers paid for that bullshit too

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry for your loss (of money)

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

lol i never lived there. and never would

[–] xwolpertinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I was gonna say "At least somebody paid taxes" ...

but I was thinking of Kent Hovind and Dinosaur Adventure Land

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have been to the Ark. It's weird.

They have some interesting exhibits where it's obvious that someone gave it a lot of thought. They dug in and thought about the tools and techniques that someone would have had available to build something like this 5000 years ago.

In some ways, it's a real monument to human achievement. But then the next exhibit just shrieks that there were definitely dinosaurs on the Ark and if you believe differently you're dumb as shit.

2/10. Food was awful.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My mother-in-law, who is very religious but basically never pushes it on me, once said to me, "it's really interesting. You don't have to be religious to enjoy it." I just nodded and smiled.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

There were some aspects I liked. They demonstrated some construction techniques people could have used to build something similar 5000 years ago. That was neat. They used some carpentry found in archeological digs from the time. I am a sucker for some of the old PBS Nova specials on how ancient Egyptians build obelisks, pyramids, things like that.

It just gets buried in the schlocky pseudo-science really quickly. It's a hard pivot from sewage systems, to people riding dinosaurs like horses, to lap joints.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Well, now I want to know why there aren't any dinosaurs still around!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's lots of them. We make nuggets with them.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's in reality, via evolution. I wondered what their fantasy story was.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Too many nuggets, probably.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Satan took them and put them in rocks to fool you about evolution. Satan playing some serious 56D chess.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They immediately burrowed into the earth looking for food (with their shovels) and died of starvation at the bottom of their holes, which is why they're just bones now.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Their stance was that Noah only brought the little ones on the boat and left anything big behind. Then the little ones died out.

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Elephant - check

Velociraptor - no check

Also there are still dinosaurs around

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[–] MethodicalSpark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Mission Failed

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

But then the next exhibit just shrieks that there were definitely dinosaurs on the Ark and if you believe differently you’re dumb as shit.

i need to visit this place for the meme lmfaooo

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ken Ham bitching about how tax dollars are spent is rich, since the fucker went to prison for not paying taxes.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that was Kent Hovind, not Ken Ham.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Well fuck that guy anyway

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I mostly remember him from the debate on evolution he did with Bill Nye. Everyone told Nye not to do it, since there was no way Ham was going to debate in good faith. Surprise surprise, Ham did not debate in good faith. Outright said no evidence would change his mind in the middle of the debate, that he would always interpret any evidence in such a way that it fit with what he already decided was the truth. Anyway, all this to say fuck Ken Ham.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The "lie" that we can physically observe happening in real-time?

Is he actually that stupid, or just counting on other people being that stupid?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Researching the Lie of Evolution

is such a weird turn of phrase even on its face. It is anti-science in the strictest sense. "Any amount of money investigating the veracity of claims is a waste, because we should just intuitively know the truth of all things."

Taken to its logical conclusion, this implies Ken Ham is claiming to be omniscient.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Granted, I am in a bible belt rural city, but I've realized if you stick out the conversation with some of these Trumpy Christians long enough you'll get to the heart - They really do just.... want to be told what to think. You have to play nice to get them there, but they eventually drill down to some variation of "Gods word is law and my pastors word is gods word and anything else is satanic bullshit we're not meant to know if we were it'd be in the bible or my pastor would tell me, as God intended." Scientific advancement is either fake or heathens dragging us further and further from god because Satan guides them to knowledge about the world.

I can't speak for everyone of course but its nuts to see how many people really are still ALL IN on "the apple is knowledge, Eve ate the apple, and that ripped us away from god for eternity - we were meant to be nothing but sheep"

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

no, he's saying god is omniscient so trying to figure out things is pointless because god already knows everything and protects us ✨✨✨

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The "lie" that is one of the foundations that all modern medical science is based on?

I agree with you. Imagine being that guy and thinking that scientists are pretending to do research and lying to the public for zero benefit.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I find most amusing about this is he built the ark to prove it could be done, but it is not docked due to not being sea-worthy on account of being too heavy.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The building of the ark isn't even the most difficult part of the story to swallow, even if his boat was sea worthy. Here's some farther fetched aspects of it:

  1. Capturing a male and female of each species, even if limited to local species.
  2. The story didn't limit it to local species.
  3. Flooding out even people who lived in mountainous areas would take a ton of water, not sure if even 40 days and nights of downpour would get there.
  4. That big of a flood would leave significant evidence.
  5. Where did all that water go after the genocide was done?
  6. A lot of vegetation wouldn't survive being submerged for over a month.
  7. It was a reset for all species, were the animals as wicked as the people were?
  8. What did the other gods have to say about this (since the flood happened during a time before the Jews were monotheistic)?
  9. It's the whole "how did Adam and Eve make the whole human race without a lot of signs of inbreeding?" thing all over again, except now for every species.
  10. What did they feed all those animals for that month, especially the ones that ate other animals?
  11. If the answer to any of these amounts to "magic" then why not just use that magic to do the genocide without introducing so many plot holes in a story made up in a time when few could tell it was full of plot holes? Just call down massive lightning like Sodom (and don't get me started on that story...).
[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Biblical literalists have "answers" to all of these, and yes, most of them amount to magic. You can't reason them out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

Still, it's good to constantly question this stuff to inform anyone still on the fence.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

Just chiming in on the "40 days and nights" to say that 40 may just mean a long time. Supposedly it was often used that way, but there doesn't seem to be a consensus from what I've seen.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 17 points 1 month ago

Hell yeah dawg let's spend millions to benefit the human population!

"NO! THATS SOCIALISMS! What I MEANT was hand it all to billionaires for absolutely no reason!"

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Worst hams. Ken Ham, and Bores Head

Best hams. Jon Hamm, and Jon Hamm’s John Ham

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I read the bottom part first, and I was thinking, "Just because it was a film doesn't mean that the Titanic wasn't real."

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, they have dinosaurs on the boat. We lived hand and hand them.lol

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

We still do

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Poll: is "$102 million dollars" "102-dollar million dollars" or "102 million-dollar dollars"?

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ken hamanmanman is still alive?

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I forgot this guy was still alive. Huh.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

does this guy have any tweets on the amount of money wasted on illegal wars? if he does, I'll give this one a pass.

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