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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has written a letter to his NDP counterpart asking Jagmeet Singh to pull his party's support for the Liberal government so Canadians can go to the polls this fall instead of next year as planned.

"Canadians can't afford or even endure another year of this costly coalition. No one voted for you to keep Trudeau in power. You do not have a mandate to drag out his government another year," Poilievre wrote in his letter.

"Pull out of the costly coalition and vote non-confidence in the government this September to trigger a carbon tax election in October of THIS YEAR. Or you will forever be known as 'Sellout Singh,'" Poilievre said.

Poilievre's challenge to Singh comes as the parties square off in a federal byelection in Manitoba, a Sept. 16 vote that is expected to be a competitive two-way race between the Conservative and NDP candidates.

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[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Nothing coming out of Poilievre's mouth is worthy of serious consideration.

What a manipulative jackass he is.

[–] tezoatlipoca@mas.to 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

@girlfreddy

His numbers are starting to flatline. I think a lot of Canadians are starting to see that he and the CPC aren't actually offering practical solutions to anything they just like complaining about the Libs. They're asking "ok so what would you do differently?" and their answer is "We're not the Liberals!". uh, ok we get that but wha- "Justin Trudeau is a moron!" uh..
They need an election before the Libs start to empty the promise tank and really toot their horns in the runup.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Especially so when he was awkwardly silent during the rail strike.

[–] tezoatlipoca@mas.to 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@Beaver

You can't come down hard against the rail bosses. They're big donors. They can't come down hard against rail labor; they're trying hard to position themselves as the party of the working dude.

As is usual, governing is hard, and there's no simple black/white easy solution to anything. And when presented with a complex situation, the Cons just go "uh... "

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

""uh... Have you heard about the evil of LGBTQ??" seems to be how that ends lately.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 months ago

Mostly T and T-adjacent, to be exactβ€”some of the other letters seem to have become too mainstream to generate enough hate to be useful to them.

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Flatlinng where they are now is a healthy majority.....

[–] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

I would smile if I heard Singh respond with your first sentence.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would he do that? It's a massive loss for him.

He votes non confidence, the NDP don't gain any ground according to current polling, he gets sacked as leader, Pollievre wind a huge majority and the NDP loses any power they have today for possibly 4-8 years.

I can see why Pollievre what's that. Why would Singh want that?

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

Toxic people often whisper bad decisions in your ear to benefit themselves

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He didn't 'ask' Singh to pull out, he goaded him like a schoolyard bully, taunting and calling names.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago

Singh wasn't the intended audience for the letter, voters were. I'm guessing it was mostly aimed at Poilievre's base, but maybe it was intended to catch some others too.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Definitely an effective way to make a political ally.

However, it's possibly intended to be that way. Now he can tell his base that he asked the NDP to join him and they refused.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Entitled Pierre Poilievre who got his pension already at age 31 wants screw over Jagmeet Singh out of his own when the NDP did so much for canadians.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Dude's never worked an hourly wage job in life. He can go fuck himself.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

He will be the next conservative leader to defeated by the wise Canadians.

Hopefully he will quit politics afterwards and everyone in parliament would breath a sigh of relief.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

October, eh? Almost as if there's something happening in early November that would hurt his popularity.

Maybe sometime around the 5th.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Iirc the last time there was a PM and POTUS from the same/similar parties was Mulroney and Reagan. And we know how well that turned out.

Honestly it'd be nice to have a Singh/Harris pairing and see where we'd be in 4 years time.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Harris is a good candidate but she needs to be fair and just on Israel and hold them accountable for their crimes.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Which she'll probably do, but not during the lead-up to the election.

The knives will be out for Netanyahu, especially if the Democrats win the house and keep the Senate. He's been a huge liability for them, and there will be a lot of pressure from people who write cheques to Israel to get him out in favour of someone who isn't an embarassment.

Expect Netanyahu to go begging to Putin if Harris wins.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Poillevre needs this to happen soon, because:

  • Ontario is likely to re-elect Ford, and Ford's desperate to squeak an election in before the feds do. Ontario almost always elects a separate party provincially and federally, Ford knows Poillevre is a liability for him, and Poillevre know the reverse is true. The difference is that Ford can call an election whenever he wants, while Poillevre has no such influence.
  • US politics influences Canada, and Harris' popularity is taking the shine off the protofascist right-wing. Poillevre's seen his largest decline in polling ever last month.

This is a "strike while the iron is hot", and Singh would need to be colossally stupid to fall for it.