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Lemmy world vegan community - hostile takeover (lemmy.ca)

submitted 3 months ago by Beaver@lemmy.ca to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218551

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26218550

(posting to both communities)

A carnist lemmy world instance admin has stepped in and meatsplained to the mods while restoring comments that violated the community's rules. They deleted comments that they did not agree with, citing 'misinformation', and threatened to demod the mods if those comments were removed again. The comments were deleted and the admin was banned from the community as per violating the rules of the community, that was until they unbanned themselves (admin abuse) and unmodded two of the moderators because of "promoting harmfull actions against pets".

As far as it stands, if the lemmy world community wasn't already not a safe vegan place for you (it really wasn't) it most certainly isn't now as carnists (lemmy world instance admin) currently mod it.

I suggest any vegan who wants a safe and welcoming space to come and interact with vegantheoryclub.org. Sorry for any inconvienance that this may have caused. I am deeply upset at the admins actions today and don't condone them whatsoever.

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[–] asymmetric@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seeing vegans and the Lemmy.World admin team fighting... yes, let the hate flow through you and destroy each other.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well for us vegans we're fighting for love. The animals deserve to be protected.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

not a vegan but you should be able to have your own space.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should have a space where they get to spread disinformation that harms pets

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah because they're such cruel fucking people, those heartless vegans abusing animals lol...

look man, I get it, you have bones with the veggies and the vegans and THIS IS THE ONE PLACE where you can get some kind of moral high ground on 'em, and you really want to rub it in their faces at every opportunity.

I don't know who those vegans even are, the vast, vast majority of vegans I know are pet owners who feed their cats and their dogs kibble. None of them are trying to 'convert' their pets, and none of them look at pet ownership as 'the enslavement of an animal for the purposes of ownership'.

all y'all need to fucking calm yoselfs. jfc, get a grip.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They are literally spreading disinformation. Vegan cat food isn't good for cats. They are abusing their cats if they feed them that. Tf is your point?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you are literally hyperventilating over this.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

It's kind of a huge deal if the mods of a community are working to promote disinformation that harms cats and censoring any dissenting opinion about it. I'd rather cats not be malnourished bc of a bunch of pissy vegans who want to force their ideology onto an animal that can't handle it

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Then feed them a proper diet. If you love animals, treat them well and don't fight for your right to spread disinformation that harms them

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 2 points 3 months ago

If you need a vegan pet get a bunny, lol.

Not feeding dogs and cats with meat-based food is cruel af.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (14 children)

I think @Rooki@lemmy.world owes an explanation and apology. It's fine to be invested in animal welfare, but if one learns that one is factually incorrect, then admitting it openly is the mature and responsible thing to do.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago

carnist misinformation

meatsplained

Lmao are these people serious

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for all the hate your getting because some people’s brains are programmed to think vegan=bad. Sounds like a major overstep by admins.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

They're not being downvoted for their veganism, they're being downvoted for their defence of animal abuse.

(Same reason the lemmy.world admin seems to have taken these actions; as much as I despise lemmy.world admins and their attempts to bring everything bad from reddit to lemmy, in this particular case they seem to have been in the right, if maybe excessively hamfisted as they tend to be).

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 months ago

Thanks for getting the word out about this, Beaver! With this and the pro-Zionist so-called 'media bias fact check', LW is turning to shit. I strongly dislike the anonymity of the actioning mod in the mod log. Can you name the PoS who decided to abuse their power to attack a vegan community? I'm not a fan of the theoryclub due to experiences with one mod, but I'll be on the ML and solarpunk vegan communities!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well, I don't feel strongly either way for the specific issue at hand but this is drama llama content for sure!

The cool part of the Fediverse, if this is an issue that fellow vegans can't see eye to eye on, then we could have two communities, possibly on two instances. One which believes animal welfare means that domesticated animals shouldn't participate in killing other animals, viewing it as unecessary and cruel, and the other community that doesn't and only considers human nutrition choices, with the view that forcing change in domesticated animals' diets as unnatural and cruel.

Like it or not, each server's admins determine the shape of discussion and can make the final decisions on some items of discourse in situations like this, call it carnist, tankie, whatever pejorative of choosing. The recourse is to move elsewhere.

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