Lol talk about a rhetorical question. Israel just assassinated the political head of Hamas. This should serve as proof that that any talk of a deal or a ceasefire over the past six months has been a sham. This means months or even years of war and thousands of more deaths, which is what Netanyahu wanted all along, while the US argues weakly in support of Israel's "right to defend itself".
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Every week or two there’s a new ceasefire deal on the table and then Netanyahu says something to the tune of “but we’re not stopping until Hamas is gone”.
It seems that the negotiators don’t have the authority to negotiate for anything other than “you stop shooting now and we’ll stop shooting when you’re dead”.
Pretty much. Netanyahu never wanted a ceasefire to begin with. My guess is that any talk of a path to a two-state solution or a ceasefire has just been a stalling tactic used by the US to deal with any criticism of Israel's war crimes. I wonder how long the State Department can keep this charade going, quite honestly.
A slow but steady genocide seems to be the strategy
👨🚀🔫 Always has been.
Exactly. Anyone who looks at Israel's actions and thinks their goal is anything other than the complete conquest, annexation, and colonization of all Palestinian territory is blind or lying.
To be fair, I’d prefer they killed this guy than Gazan citizens.
“Footage from his office in the Qatari capital of Doha showed Haniyeh celebrating the Hamas-led October 7 attacks on Israel with other Hamas officials, before they prayed and praised God”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Ismail_Haniyeh?wprov=sfti1#Ismail_Haniyeh
This assassination is an assurance that countless more Gazan citizens are going to die. It's not an either/or situation.
I hope not. But you’re likely correct.
And it totally shows that Israel already have the capability to decimate Hamas if they wanted too. Too bad they're just genocidal maniacs with Hamas being secondary targets.
I don't think that's true. Sureley they want someone to put blame on but actually killing hamas as a whole or any other resistance group is difficult because new ones will keep popping up until the genocide is complete.
Setback? If the Israeli government carries on like this they're going to start a regional war.
That's what Bibi wants, perpetual war so he's staying on power. Trump winning the election would also be a great boost as he's definitely willing to back Israel on a wider offensive war with Lebanon and Iran.
Compare this to the current Democrat government that told Israel no when they wanted to retaliate after Iran's retaliation.
That's basically what Zionism calls for. Not just Palestine but a greater israel spreading from Egypt to Jordan. Now they are even wearing badges of it in their uniform.
Gee, ya think? The world is better off without Hamas, but to have Israel assassinate the leadership of a party it was negotiating with is obviously not conducive to good relations. They should have turned him over to the ICC instead. He was already wanted by the court: https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state
From the statement:
On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Yahya SINWAR (Head of the Islamic Resistance Movement (“Hamas”) in the Gaza Strip), Mohammed Diab Ibrahim AL-MASRI, more commonly known as DEIF (Commander-in-Chief of the military wing of Hamas, known as the Al-Qassam Brigades), and Ismail HANIYEH (Head of Hamas Political Bureau) bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of Israel and the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 7 October 2023:
- Extermination as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(b) of the Rome Statute;
- Murder as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(a), and as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
- Taking hostages as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(iii);
- Rape and other acts of sexual violence as crimes against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(g), and also as war crimes pursuant to article 8(2)(e)(vi) in the context of captivity;
- Torture as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(f), and also as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity;
- Other inhumane acts as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(l)(k), in the context of captivity;
- Cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity; and
- Outrages upon personal dignity as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(ii), in the context of captivity.
Once israel stop the colonization, hamas will disappear
That is a naive view - it would take a sustained period of peace to grow beyond Hamas' current violent orientation.
I'm not saying it would happen in 1 day or a year if hamas refuse to drop arms like they are promising once palestine is free but without population support they can't exist forever
I agree with that - I was concerned your original statement implied it'd be a quick process but that sort of trust and stability take a while to build back up.
I doubt it, unless the Muslim Brotherhood and Likud disappear along with it.
Hamas will disappear when Iran determines they're no longer useful
No amount of support from iran would save a hamas that don't have the population support.
I will just send you to my other comment: My own comment.
I’m genuinely curious if you even know the history of Israel and when Hamas was created.
The world is better off without Israel and why? Well because they’re the ones committing crimes since 1948 up until now (and ongoing). There’s enough news articles, books and historical evidence of this.
I'm going to guess you replied to the wrong person, because this has nothing to do with my post.
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