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When I first started using Lemmy it seemed like such a nice place with interesting discussions. It seemed like the first group of people to join after the app exodus were being quite careful to be respectful of the existing culture.

Now, it seems as though the culture from Reddit has completely replaced it. Toxicity and all. I will say I do follow a lot of communities from a wide range of instances so it's clearly not everywhere.

Am I the only one who's feeling like we've just stormed in and bulldozed Lemmy?

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[–] ToroidalX@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Everyone wants to pretend like the ones who left reddit where the good guys. Most of them just want the same thing: attention, controversy and bad memes. We where a part of reddit and as such, we brought reddit here too. Maybe is not you or me, but there's people out there who will bring their toxicity everywhere they go. Be it Reddit, Twitter or Lemmy

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I came at the beginning of the Reddit exodus in June and I haven’t noticed necessarily a shift to Reddit’s culture as it’s grown but more of just the general toxicity that comes along with a platform growing to a certain size.

There is a lot more trolls and likewise people who won’t engage civilly with someone who has an opposing view (because why would you when there is a good chance the other person is just a troll?). I feel like the reaction to Lemmy.world blocking piracy communities or most instances degenerating from Hexbear have shown me that.

Lemmy culture still seems to be intact. A lot of posting is still tech focused and the is still a lot of good discussion. It just seems like a lot of posts that make “Hot” on the All feed tend to be more combative or politically charged.

[–] amio@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

No. Apart from the relentless political posting, you-know-what-instance and a small handful of other people being obviously bad faith actors, I actually think it's a chill, relatively nice little place. A bunch of people will have Opinions and not be too shy about them, I figure that's fine as long as they're not aggressively off-topic, offputtingly angry or shared in a douchebaggy way. I haven't seen much outright incivility so far, whereas Reddit is a fucking constant shit blizzard.

I do hope we'll stay vigilant about astroturfing and bad faith participation, though, because it wouldn't take much to ruin the whole thing. "Redditism" is a natural-ish development for any large website if there's not a strong culture for resisting it, but it did become abruptly and noticeably worse once it turned into a pawn in the 2016 US election. Politics, as always, is the mind killer.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think so. I used to post every day so there would at least be some content. Now I don't feel like that's necessary anymore. I like it more now.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It's the politics, and the siloing as a result.

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[–] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things are fine man. There's just a lot of de federation lately which I don't think is exactly right.

[–] EremesZorn@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That depends entirely on what instances we are talking about. Lemmy.grad and Hexbear users have no business existing anywhere but their own shitty tankie bubble.

[–] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are those the super communists that are like fuck any place that's not Russia and China? Lol

If so I guess I feel the pain but I just give em the block

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TRUE. fuck tankies.

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yes it has. You can see this in political discussions very easily. There are too many people (mostly Americans) who are accusing everyone of being a Russian bot. This did not exist a year ago.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

When I see the term “Russian bot” I can’t help but think of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEDOR and that video of it awkwardly and inflexibly shooting guns

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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am relatively new here, having embraced Lemmy after fleeing reddit in June. During my short tenure I have observed a change in culture and decline in politeness and respect for others. However, I think that some claims about the rise of toxic behavior are overstated.

In any event, it’s like a city growing from 500 people to 5,000, or from 50,000 people to 500,000. Of course the culture is going to be changed. Such growth is important to avoid stagnation and death by attrition, however. I think at this point Lemmy has achieved a critical mass where it is likely to continue growing. When people ask “how can we grow Lemmy faster or further”, though, I question whether that is really a good idea. Sites like reddit are somewhat too large, which is great for niche interests but fairly horrible for the most popular communities.

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