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Trump lied and Biden got tongue tied at the first debate. So why is the world only focusing on one?
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BOY DID HE EVER FUCKING LIE.
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"Tongue tied"
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It is so funny they talk about the look and presentation when its so much easier to just spew out whatever is at tip of your brain with no care about veracity.
Trump lies so often that it's no longer newsworthy to point it out. Even if Biden had debated well, the media probably wouldn't have even scratched 5% of Trump's falsehoods in a fact check and just focused on soundbytes of Trump saying dumb shit as usual.
It doesn't fucking help that the right have been repeating a lie about Biden having dementia and, regardless of what the actual cause of his poor performance was on debate night, he put wind in their sails and essentially "proved them right all along" with his hoarse voice and incoherent train of thought. The seed has been planted and now some will start to wonder that if the Republicans were right about that, then what other farfetched nonsense could they also be right about?
It's been 12 days since the debate and people are still talking about how bad it was. I'm pissed that the Biden team is treating this as if it's no big deal when this one event was an absolute torpedo to his campaign that he might not recover from if he can't convince both the Democratic establishment and the Democratic electorate that he is capable of doing another 4 years.
I'm worried about Biden's chances because he won in 2020 while Trump's atrocious term was still fresh in everyone's minds. People apparently have short fucking memories because they all want to go back to Trump mismanaging the country and potentially ending free elections forever just to shave 30 cents off the price of eggs at the supermarket. Biden is still coasting on the policy-agnostic idea that the people will reject Trump more strongly than they will approve of him and I think that's a huge mistake. He needs to be hammering his achievements home and also talking about stats from the Trump era and how they were great when Obama left office, terrible when Biden took office (due to Trump's admin) and now improving thanks to him. That makes the best case for re-election, more than just convincing everybody to not vote for the openly fascist candidate because there's no realistic alternative.
Because everyone knew Trump would lie constantly, that's all he ever does. Biden used to be an eloquent, confident public speaker, but that has changed drastically in the last 4 years. We also know that reporting on Trump's lies doesn't slow or stop them and definitely doesn't change his supporters' minds. If anything, reporting constantly on the lies he tells just gives him more screen-time to spread them. Also, the world really needs Trump to lose, so if the only guy available to do so is seemingly physically unable, it makes sense to talk about options.
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News feeds on drama so they have to foment turmoil. Also, every news source of consequence has a trump donor CEO (even the liberal biased ones)...so....
i like destinys take on trump "because nobody fucking cares"