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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 115 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You mean the rich would prefer to implement fascism than be less wealthy. Who could've possibly seen this coming?

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

The rich have been trying to install fascism since the 1930s. They have been trying ever since.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well *I* for one am shocked, Shocked I say... SHOCKED!!?!! Well, not that shocked.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I am in possession of a modicum of alarm.

Not about this, about something else. But I still have it

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 73 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah cause he’s more or less going to give them shitloads of money by lowering their taxes. Hell, he might invent some sort of grant and literally give them our taxpayer dollars.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

he might invent some sort of grant and literally give them our taxpayer dollars.

Hmmm, now where have I seen that before??

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

PPP loans were handouts for the rich

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Trump though

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Gotta love that ROI

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago

This just in: richest people in the US are greedy cocksuckers who will do anything to avoid paying taxes, including backing a convicted felon for president

Shameful. Bring out the guillotines

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Of course they do.

That's the central reason that bribes need to be kept out of politics (and don't feed me any of that shit about lobbying as speech - they're bribes obviously). It's not simply that it's dishonorable or dishonest to base government policy on bribes paid - much more importantly it's that allowing bribes rewards and thus selects for people who are vile, self-serving scumbags.

It's not an accident that the billionaires and the politicians are almost entirely foul pieces of shit - it's because our corrupt political system actually rewards foul pieces of shit and penalizes anyone with actual morals or integrity. It's not just that politicians can take bribes, but that they essentially have to, just to keep up with the other candidates who do. And similarly it's not that the wealthy and the corporations can pay bribes, but that they essentially have to, just to compete against the other wealthy people and corporations who do.

Allowing bribes just creates a political system that's effectively gatekept - "You have to be this corrupt to take part in this system." And the people who aren't that corrupt are locked out.

Trump is certainly the most foul, loathsome, corrupt piece of shit in this election (not that Biden isn't one too - just that Trump has achieved depths virtually unheard of, even in the cesspool of US politics). So Trump is naturally the one who's going to get the lion's share of bribes from the foul, loathsome pieces of shit who pay the most and biggest ones.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

And it is extremely effective. How many generations in are we on "money is free speech" before we are literally combating fascism aided by the entire machine itself? If democracy survived this election, and our country thereafter it's pillaged, we need to move with the speed of gods to fix our system.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Remember this simple fact: in the US we call it lobbying, but every other country calls is corruption.

[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago

More the love of money is the root of all evil

[–] 555@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There really should be a cap of like $500

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There should, but even the people running the Dem party dont agree.

The Biden Victory Fund can now take almost a million a year from each citizen. It's not quite a PAC, because it allows the DNC, Biden, and Biden's campaign staff to coordinate.

Along with some other shady shit.

It's an evolution of the Hillary Victory Fund that managed to lose to trump, bankrupt the DNC, lose a lot of "safe seats" down ballot due to no acces to their own donations, and bankrupted multiple state parties.

But what are you going to do? What other options do you have?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-little-for-state-parties-222670

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/28/1184894538/a-look-at-bidens-intimate-donor-events

https://www.opensecrets.org/joint-fundraising-committees-jfcs/biden-victory-fund/C00744946/2024/summary

This money doesn't stay hidden till the general, even back in 2016 this program was in use during the primary with Hillary's campaign team controlling the flow of money to the DNC and state parties.

And like I said, that group literally just shifted from Hillary to Biden and been running the same grift.

The people running that controls all the money, and they decide who runs as a Dem.

Ignoring the problem won't fix it. And unless we fix it, were never gonna get a candidate that represents Dem voters

[–] 555@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

There is no hope except a swift death for humanity. It’s the end of the (human) world.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Big fucking duh. Trump has already told all the millionaires and billionaires that if they get him re-elected, he'll cut taxes for them. You cant cut their taxes without raising them somewhere else.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

Class warfare

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

The bourgeoisie and the wealthy are evil AF. Capitalism rewards it. We need to bring down the walls and get these fucks up against those that remain.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

If anyone is surprised by that I just want to point out that the person starting at you through the glass in the bathroom is you, it's called a reflection.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Why are PACs still a thing

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Because guillotines aren't.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Party of 0.001%

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Either you systemically enforce the evisceration, & prevention, of kleptarchy..

XOR kleptarchy highacks your country, permanently.


There isn't even a single photon of "middle ground" in that process.

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[–] outsideno1877@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I mean fucking duh he appeals to the rich and doesn’t give af about the poor giving tax cuts to the rich and having them write laws for him. I mean biden ain’t much better but trumps far more open about only caring about the rich