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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Square Enix is slowly starting to realize that locking out a significant part of its potential customers with platform exclusivity will lead to most of those potential customers not buying their shit. It's like the first vestiges of conscious thought are starting to appear within their leadership.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I am happy it's on Steam, but admittedly Kingdom Hearts 3 is not the main offender here when they still have games trapped on single consoles. KH3 was already on PC, it's just more accessible now. Can't say the same about Final Fantasy 16 or Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. Hopefully that is what they fix next.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They're both timed exclusives, and Square have said that they'd stop platform-exclusive releases after those two games failed to meet shareholders' expectations. Whether they'll actually go through with it, or get saturday morning cartoon villain yen sign pupils when Sony makes their next offer, I have no idea.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

And then after saying that they’ll probably put it on epic games store first :/

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do I need a calculator to figure out which order to play these games in?

[–] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

If you boot it up they give you the order to play it in. There is only 1 problem and it's at the beginning. They tell you to watch 358/2 before playing 2
DO NOT DO THAT IT SPOILS A MAJOR PLOT IN PART 2

Play it in this order

1

Chain of memories

2

358/2 days

[–] Bassman27@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I can’t see myself paying £60 for games that came out on ps2 which were then remastered and rereleased in 2014. Too little too late in this case :’(

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Welcome to the current state of Square Enix.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I know it's not the same, but it gives off similar energy as Sony RE releasing all the previous Spider-Man movies to theaters because Madame Web flopped so hard.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

If only it was just SE that's loke this...

[–] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

I agree full price is steep, but to be fair 1.5/2.5 is like 4 or 5 different games (plus a few cinematic movies for lore from the obscure handheld games) in one and the remasters are actually really well done and add a bunch of content. I don't know how they perform on PC though since it's a Square port.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ditto. If these were FFVII-style remakes, sure... but for a two-decade old franchise whose last release was half a decade ago... I'd consider $20.

[–] Bassman27@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

£20 for the complete collection then maybe we’ll talk lmao

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The stories already fucky enough as it is in Kingdom Hearts, without doing a FF7 remake to it and releasing each game in chunks for a total cost of 200+ bucks for each game.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Just wishlist and wait for Steam sale.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

As long as it took to get these games on steam, I've completely lost interest.

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The names for these games are so weird. Am I reading that right 1.5 + 2.5 and then 2.8 ?

[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

1.5 kind of makes sense. It holds Kingdom Hearts 1 and a remake of the GBA game that comes before Kingdom Hearts 2 (also comes with a the cutscenes of another game between 1 and 2). I guess they wanted to keep the naming similar because 2.5 comes with Kingdom Hearts 2 and...a prequel to every game... and a cutscene collection of some weird side game about an AI. They then released a bundle of both of these on PS4 which they named 1.5+2.5. 2.8 they were really scrambling. Because they wanted to release the rest of the games in some way before Kingdom Hearts 3 so that holds a sequel to Kingdom Hearts 2, A standalone demo for 3 and...a movie from the earliest part of the series that actually is a giant pit of questions with no answers which may or may not have been answered by the gacha. No idea.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Surely they've updated 3 by now? Couldn't they call it 3.128? /j

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It all makes so much sense now....

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Man I hate it when I want to start playing a new franchise and I need a whole book to figure out what order to even play the games in

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago

To learn Kingdom Hearts lore going in blind you'd need an autistic kid who's hyper-fixated on it, a couple cases of monster energy, and a weeks worth of LSD micro doses.

That should get you up to speed on about 50% of it.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like the idea of these games but the execution was way way more complicated than it needed to be.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a huge fan of these games... absolutely. I keep coming back because I love the characters so much and the story arcs within each game can be fairly satisfying, but the overarching plot is a complete mess.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

Not only are the numbers weird, the games within the series (more than just the main 3) came out as exclusives to a wide variety of platforms. KH has such a bizarre history.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 6 months ago

This isn't even the tip of the naming weirdness this series has.

I've seen an hour long video essay that focused entirely on how they named the games.

[–] FehrIsFair@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Yes. That is correct.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

To the point where I legitimately thought it was a mockery of the series. Oof.

[–] gazoinksboe@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

God yes. I could not stomach buying this on Epic

[–] proper@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

gotta be deck compatible right?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'd hope so and square enix has been... improving, but their track record of ports even working properly on an average windows PC is not super great. I'm still hoping I'm wrong, but betting against it launching in verified status and kinda 50/50 on it working at all on my steam deck.

[–] khlinxchaos@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Probably not fully, unless they actually do work on the games. The cutscenes on some of the games play with a proprietary protocol that even Proton-GE can't run. So, while the game works, the cutscenes don't.

It's feasible that they will fix it, but I consider it highly unlikely.

[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any documentation on this you can link because it doesn't really make sense what you mean and I love learning about these things. Most of the cutscenes will be rendered in engine so nothing special there, and the pre-rendered ones if they used an unusual codec I don't get why the codec isn't baked into the game files which would render that also a moot problem.

[–] khlinxchaos@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Okay, that's pretty lame. According to several spots (all quoting an RPGsite writer and an emoji response from a Sqenix dev) square Enix actually brought in a third party company specifically to improve Steam Deck support. Honestly makes sense, the steam deck seems like their largest potential new customer base.

[–] LupertEverett@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Epic Crap Store having one less exclusive is always good to hear about.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They don't care. They already got what they wanted.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

No, they always want more.

[–] aciDC14@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Finally!!! Thank god i don’t have to shill 60(+) dollars to Epic just to get it on PC!

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[–] FryHyde@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Coxming txo Stexam Junex 1x3

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Great. Now do Xenogears next.

[–] Syltti@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] SquigglyEmpire@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I think that one would have to come from Bandai.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Both would be amazing.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

How many Xehanorts is that?

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Being generous with this actual estimate, there's like 22 of them.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago
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[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Nice! I already own these on Xbox, but it's good they're moving to other platforms

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