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On Tuesday and Wednesday, Cubana de Aviacion flights to Buenos Aires were canceled because fuel suppliers in Argentina refused to serve the airline.

The companies have invoked "provisions of the United States blockade against Cuba" to not supply the aircraft of the Cuban state airline.

Additionally, this measure has affected other airlines contracted by Cubana de Aviacion, preventing them from fulfilling commitments to passengers.

This surprising decision took place despite the Cuban flights being approved by the Argentina's National Civil Aviation Administration (ANAC).

In response to this situation, the airline has decided to assist affected passengers in Cuba by sending them back on flights operated by other airlines connecting to Argentina. Other passengers will be eligible for a full refund of their airfare. ⠀

During the first quarter of 2024, the Cuban airline transported 3,221 passengers with an occupancy rate of 61 percent. The number of Argentine travelers to Cuba increased by 44 percent compared to the same period last year, reaching 12,753 people.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is stupid. They have never invoked this before. What the fuck Argentina.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They are sucking up to the US. First the NATO non membership partnership thing and now this.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I still never understood what Cuba actually did that makes the US sanction them to this day. As far as I can tell they were a neutral country actually leaning slightly in favour of the US right up until they were suddenly branded communist (in the soviet sense) and more or less pushed into Russias arms.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's the threat of a good example right at the US's borders. Even with the embargo, Cuba has free healthcare, housing, better LGBT rights, higher life expectancy, and a proper democracy unlike the US. A thriving Cuba might threaten the US capitalist class and force them to make concessions to the working-class, like the Scandanavian countries' capitalist states had to for being near the USSR (though those have started being undone with the example overthrown).

And it's not just sanctions, the embargo also prevents companies of other countries from trading with Cuba if they also do so with the US. Which the vast majority of them obviously have to if they want to survive competition.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Cuba repossessed land that foreigners in the US (Florida) were making money off of so they could support their own people. The dispossessed Americans turned this into a voting issue and have had the US leadership by the balls over it since. Other countries in the region who want to suck up to the US uphold the embargo on their end as well. This keeps Cuba in a constant state of extreme poverty. It's violence.

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Well Castro came to power via revolution in 1959, which pissed off the US, and started the push towards the Soviet Union. The nation also hosted Soviet nukes for a very brief time in 1962.

More detailed timeline found here, if you're interested.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You haven't heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis?

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was in response to the US placing similar missiles in Turkey and Italy and threatening the USSR in 1961.

I don't see Russia putting an embargo on those two now 60 years later. Though ig that's not a one-to-one comparison since Russia's ruled by capitalists now.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am not here arguing for or against sanctions. I am saying that there is a specific historical incident which is the current justification for the status quo.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This was 62 years ago, if just the crisis was the reason, it would be gone long ago, at least since 1991. No, the true reason is that thriving socialist state in a beret toss distance from USA would undermine US imperialism greatly. Remember that entire capitalism hinges on the propaganda that "socialism don't work", and while it demostrably do work, it's always some far away so it can be propagandized and demonised to hell and back, so when they got one right beside them, they must sabotage it with all strenght.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to know what the domestic spin is on this.

What specifics is he promising this will deliver domestically? I can't imagine Buenos Aires is on Putin's shortlist even without the threst of NATO, and it's not like Americans are goung to start beating the doors down for Argentine imports.

There's tactful good relations, and then there's "sempai notice me". Although, the Cosplay Crusader may well be familiar with that trope.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's easy, communist dictator overthrew the corporate friendly dictator so the big, rich land owners and industrialist lost their investment. So fled to Dominican Republic, most to Miami.

Their descendants represent an important Latino vote that grew up hating Castro's regime. To the point of some of the most extreme took down a Cuban cargo plane without consequences from the US. The US sucks up to them for their votes in exchange for continued anti Castro policies.

Obama actually started reversing this but guess which orange bozo undid most of it in a single term? Not that Biden did much to try it again.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I meant more how Milei is selling it to Argentina. The absurd political overweight of the Cuban self-exiles in Florida is well known.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Ah my mistake. Miles? Probably some wild rambling involving a chainsaw and his cloned dogs. Oh you mean a rationalization? I have no idea.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 months ago

Argentina is getting shittier and shittier under Milei

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 7 points 8 months ago

While Milei doesn't have a lot going for himself, in this case it could also be that the companies supplying the fuel have some US component / have more to lose from not having access to American markets than they gain from supplying that airline, and it is the US government to blame.

The US blockade of Cuba is, of course, very hypocritical; there have been human rights abuses in Cuba relatively recently (e.g. the crackdown on peaceful July 11 2021 protestors), but if that is grounds for continuing sanctions of an unrelated industry for links to that country, then if there wasn't a double standard the US should firstly be sanctioning Israel for years of brutal repression and apartheid in Israeli-occupied Palestine, and secondly be sanctioning itself for the police crackdowns on protestors calling for righting the wrongs in Palestine.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

You would think a country doing crippling austerity would do anything it can to get visitors but nope. ancaptain

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was in Miami International Airport two days ago and there was a direct flight to Havana Cuba. There are flights back and forth every day.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

American operates more than 49 flights per week from Miami to Havana!. Also Miami to Santiago de Cuba and Varadero 5 days a week, and Santa Clara, Camagüey, Holguín 7 days a week.

Southwest operates flights from Fort Lauderdale to Havana 21 times a week. (3/day), additionally once daily from Tampa to Havana (twice on Saturday).

Delta flies Miami to Havana twice daily

United flies Houston to Havana once daily.

Source: I hope to visit soon and researched

Of course none of these are on Cuba's airline Cubana as I assume the US doesn't allow it.

The Havana to Buenos Aires route is also served once weekly by Euroairlines.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We're going to need an :argentina-cool: real fast.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

For the non-Hexbears that means a variant of the amerikkka isntrael nato-cool emojis

[–] brunacho@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 8 months ago

Well, if Milei keeps at it soon you'll have IRL :argentina-cool: fingers crossed

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago