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  • Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said ‘we will make our own decisions, and the State of Israel will do everything necessary to defend itself’
  • Germany’s foreign minister said ‘escalation ‘would serve no one, not Israel’s security, not the many dozens of hostages still in the hands of Hamas’ ⠀

Netanyahu met the German and British foreign ministers, who both travelled to Israel as part of a coordinated push to keep the confrontation between Israel and Iran from escalating into a regional conflict fuelled by the Gaza war.

Netanyahu’s office said he thanked David Cameron and Annalena Baerbock for their support, while telling them: “I want to make it clear – we will make our own decisions, and the State of Israel will do everything necessary to defend itself.” ⠀

The Iranian missiles and drones launched on Saturday were mostly shot down by Israel and its allies and caused no deaths. But Israel says it must retaliate to preserve the credibility of its deterrents. Iran says it considers the matter closed, but will retaliate again if Israel does. Washington says it is planning to impose new sanctions targeting Iran’s missile and drone programme in coming days, and expects its allies will follow suit. EU leaders are due to discuss sanctions at a summit in Brussels, and sanctions are also on the agenda at G7 talks in Italy. ⠀

Inside Gaza, Israel has launched a massive air and ground assault, with nearly 34,000 people confirmed killed, according to Palestinian doctors, and thousands of others feared dead, still lost among the ruins. ⠀

Israel says it will discuss a pause to free hostages but will not stop fighting until Hamas is wiped out; Hamas says it will not release hostages without a truce leading to an end to the war. The prime minister of Qatar, which has served as mediator, said negotiations were at a delicate phase. The Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, three of whose sons were killed in an Israeli strike in Gaza this month, is set to visit Turkey in coming days for talks with President Tayyip Erdogan.

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[–] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The nice thing about Lemmy is that I can say "I hope he dies" and won't get banned.

Fuck 'Bibi', Fuck Israel.

[–] venturi@lemmy.ml 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It almost seems like Reddit censors anything pro-Palestine.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

r/worldnews there absolutely does. Several years ago I said that Hamas has the support it does because of Israeli aggression and its active stance against them. My comment was deleted and I was banned for “terrorist apologia”. It’s not even allowed to try and understand the situation impartially.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

I mean you don't even need impartiality, that's just facts. For example it is clear from the actions of Israel that they absolutely do know and agree with what you wrote, and as consequence they treat entire population of Palestine as enemies because this is how people they learned from, SS, fought the partisans too. They just don't want others to realise what are the implications of it and since deplatforming works, they and their protectors are doing it.

[–] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago

And nonfederated social media. Not just that one.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Is it reddit or the mods?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

It's so liberating joining a platform not being run by pedo-nazis after so many decades of being forced to operate under their tyranny.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 47 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Defend" itself from what was basically an economic wristslap without even any casualties

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Well, there were dozens of people who needed to see a therapist for their anxiety!

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Didn’t like a 7 year old get injured from a missile? That counts as a casualty.

Still, Israel (well, Netti Pot) is a dumbass if he does anything back to Iran. I certainly don’t want to help them fight some stupid war that doesn’t benefit me, or help their citizens other than chest pounding.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Strictly speaking, the USA will defend Israel from Iran whil Israel exacerbates tensions.

Not a moral complaint. Just a clarification.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

The spice must flow 🛢️

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago

Wow sure wish we could make our own decisions in the US rather than having hundreds of millions in bribes flowing to Washington from Tel Aviv.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago

Defending is not offending. Neturd seems to constantly confuse the two

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

It's not self-defense if you were the clear aggressor.

This chode claiming Israel is defending itself, is like if I showed up to my neighbor's house, held a gun to his head, and claimed self-defense when I shot him because he tried to tackle me in order to break my aim.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is some "Nobody helped me when I was on wellfare" levels of self awareness.

How fast can Bibi go from saying they'll defend themselves to calling America antisemitic from not giving them unlimited free weapons.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

“We must reestablish deterrence that allows us to air strike Iran without them shooting back”

Utterly deranged. The Zionist mind is so self important they really think the status quo is whatever they want it to be.

[–] Simmy@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

What a corrupt state, of evil dehuminsers, israel. Just 'one up' a retaliation strike with no deaths. How long can they keep this going, it never ends. You cannot defeat an idea.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What is the legal basis for additional sanctions on Iran?

[–] peg@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They're brown.