At this point an indictment of Trump in the US has reached the same level as mass shootings and our dying planet. Which indictment, mass shooting or catastrophic environmental disaster are we talking about? I’m numb and have lost track amongst the desperate hopes for change.
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Exactly this. An arraignment of a former president has become a non-event. This is ideal for Trump, regardless of how MSNBC tries to spin it.
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This is definitely some of it. Although being in DC probably also helps to tone things down. DC is a pretty blue town outside of the federal buildings.
I can picture a world where Trump’s fervent supporters would descend upon DC and cause at least a little turbulence.
Impossible. They’d never do that.
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What i find interesting is that somehow in developing countries justice was slow but eventually it arrived. I can think of places like Peru with Fujimori. Presidents got away for a while but eventually their own justice systems made them pay. I would be surprised if somehow justice didn't prevail in this situation with Trump.
Justice has to prevail on some level if the US has any hope of protecting its democracy. This was a direct attack on the most fundamental parts of the country.
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Fucking traitor. Lock him the fuck up.
It's never gonna happen. At most he'll become bogged down in lawsuits and charges till he dies. But there's no way they'll ever allow a u.s president to set foot in jail
Hard disagree.
This stupid cuck is going to jail 100% if he does not win the next presidential election. Our legal system can be pretty fucked up sometimes but it's not that fucked up, this guy literally tried to overthrow our democracy.
I'm not saying he's not going to jail, but I am saying our system is absolutely fucked. This dude is free years after openly trying to overthrow our democratic processes. The most blatant example (Georgia) isn't even one of the indictments he's currently facing.
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I hope you're wrong personally
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I imagine one of the prosecutors touches Trump's forehead for a few seconds, then says: "It's afraid!"
I would like to know more.
Excellent reference!
The only good bug is a dead bug
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Most of the protesters aren't allowed near Washington DC government buildings due to their plea deals.
Oh no, the consequences of his own actions.
Well, the GOP is the party of personal responsibility, right?
The fascists aren't stupid. They see the writing on the wall so they're moving on. Completely expected and even if Trump gets the death penalty the threat is by no means gone. Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself.
Beard has a great quote from her book SPQR
“If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.”
An analogy I like: If you have a toxic, dangerous plant in your garden, like the Gympie Gympie maybe, do you remove it by snipping off the leaf bud at the very top, or do you pull it out roots and all?
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The fascists aren’t stupid.
Citation needed
Never assume the enemy is stupid. That's how you lose. If they were truly stupid they wouldn't have gotten this far and wouldn't even be a threat.
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There's a distinction to be made between the fascists—the people in power pushing fascism—and the people voting for it. The latter are ignorant and stupid. The former are wringing the country dry for money and power.
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This is a major problem with the right wing, there is no principles or loyalty or anything. It’s not the major problem, it’s just one.
Additionally, a leader is just a tool used by a collective. The collective is in power, not the leader. Trump is no longer useful to them so he is being replaced, just like how a medieval king who fails to please his court of nobles is overthrown for a king that can.
Whether you can overthrow a leader simply depends on if you're part of the collective they serve or not. The reason the general public can't get rid of corrupt politicians or near universally hated people like Bezos or Elon, is because the collective that appoints them is not the public, but much like the medieval king, they only have to answer to a small group of modern day nobles (AKA the corporations, investors, and ultra rich in general).
It's the ruling class, not the individual ruler, that calls the shots. Always. Because a single person can never enforce their rule alone, it requires a group that collectively has sufficient power to enforce their collective rule.
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He's still the frontrunner for the Republican nomination by a wide margin, there is no one who is showing like they will compete, even after this most recent indictment. Republicans will still rally behind him if he gets the nomination. Unless his trials are ahead of the election, which they likely aren't, nothing will change.
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Sad trombone lol
What checks? They think they're getting paid?
He's raked in hundreds of millions in political donations since this started, they've been paid more than 40m so far
And yet he still stiffed Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani should have seen it coming though, it’s like someone who marries a known cheater and is shocked they got cheated on.
That’s one of the coolest things he’s ever done though. You’re redeeming Trump in my eyes right now
Well, Rudy had a number of embarrassing moments in public that I think caused Trump to lose any respect he might have had for the former mayor. Two that I can think of, the hair dye sweating down his face and the fart picked up on mic in a courtroom.
But his worst offense, in terms of how Trump views people: he lost. He's a loser.
You forgot their perfect press conference at the lovely Four Seasons Landscaping company.
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He's not alone. He still has millions of US voters on his side.
keep donating to his reelection campaign. his lawyers appreciate it.
He has to be pissed that Jarvanka took the 3 billion and booked without kicking up to the head czar
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