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Are lemmy community posts automatically federated into their kbin counterparts? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by adonis@kbin.social to c/AskKbin@kbin.social

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One thing I don't get right now, is how kbin/lemmy interact with each other?

When I subscribe to /m/technology here on kbin, do I get to see /c/technology posts from lemmy and can interact with them from within kbin? Or would I need to separately subscribe somewhere, or even register a new account on lemmy?

Also, If they're automatically federated, then how does it work with /m/askkbin and /c/asklemmy, both with different names.

Thanks!

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[–] kuontom@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The important thing to understand is that kbin.social and a lemmy instance like lemmy.ml are federated but still different websites. Therefore the magazine /m/technology is different from the lemmy.ml community /c/technology. It's just that you can access lemmy.ml magazines from kbin.social and vice versa.

Across instances, magazines are not uniquely identified by their name, but by their address. The address of the kbin.social magazine /m/technology is technology@kbin.social, whereas the address of /c/technology on lemmy.ml is technology@lemmy.ml. You can subscribe to both from kbin itself. If you're on kbin, just 'technology' is interpreted as technology@kbin.social. So the magazine page for kbin magazines is kbin.social/m/magazineName and the page for magazines from other federated websites is kbin.social/m/magazineName@website.

/m/technology -> kbin.social/m/technology
/c/technology -> kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.ml

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I subscribe to /m/technology here on kbin, do I get to see /c/technology posts from lemmy and can interact with them from within kbin?

Not automatically, but they do use the same protocol. If you went to http://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.world (note that last part) it would show up fine as a new magazine to be added. I think once one person on kbin.social subs manually, it becomes populated and will show up in searches for new magazines, but I start to get a little fuzzy on the specifics. Still, you can participate in most lemmy instances with an extra step or two and without perfect subject-matter integration, but also without leaving your home kbin instance. Also, a site like lemmy.ml is just as distinct from lemmy.world as kbin.social is, the first two just run the same back-end software and have similar names.

Because the domain names are really part of the community's name, even if sites don't show them by default (in kbin, the default behavior is to show them when you hover over them), then similarly named communities can coexist, though they generally don't integrate either. There has been some noise from us Reddit refugees to make automagic multireddits from identically named communities, but that's not really what the original ActivityPub architects had in mind, so it may not be as simple as it sounds.

Also, If they're automatically federated, then how does it work with /m/askkbin and /c/asklemmy, both with different names.

Those two would just be two completely different mags for a kbin user, inefficient to consume maybe, but very simple. Think in terms of /r/funny and /r/humor.

[–] adonis@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I see ...thx for the detailed clarification.

So, I'd need to subscribe to both communities then, to prevent FOMO 😂

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, but you only need the one website, and while the benefits of federation are not fully realized right now -- and frankly it doesn't seem like it's going to evolve quite how the original devs imagined it -- it does mean less content goes away if one site goes off the rails.

[–] adonis@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, I'm already a little bit familiar with the fediverse, and I understand that I can do everything from within one website. The only thing I wasn't sure about, was, whether there was some automatic merging of the identical communities.

I'm really excited to see where all of this goes, especially now, after the self-destruction of the two big platforms. Sure, some things might still be a bit rough around the edges, but considering all of this happened so quickly, it's already more than usable.

I could even imagine people to start moving away even before a platform destructs itself, like YouTube.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we have the ability yet to make multi-subs? Like for example a magazine that includes both technology@kbin.social and technology@lemmy.ml, the way we could make multisubs in reddit?

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't personally know of anything, but us reddit refugees have been mentioning it for a while, so I'm sure that Lemmy and Kbin devs know that some of us would like it, and frankly with the number of "general" instancecs that have popped up, I think it's more in line with how people are actually going to use the Threadiverse. I think it'll eventually show up in Lemmy, Kbin, or a fork, but it could be a while, and IMHO it's a low priority until user numbers make navigation more unwieldy.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Short answer: No they're separate and you'd need to sub to both to see both. You don't need a Lemmy account to sub to things from over here though, just need to search for the community address on Kbin side.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To my knowledge they're separate. For example I'm replying to this from Lemmy, and asklemmy is separate from askkbin. You can still follow communities/magazines from one another though

[–] adonis@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

aah, I see... so you subscribed to both then?

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