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[–] Elkenders 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully the kind of people who would care about this being lawful are also the people who would clean up after themselves.

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not been a problem on Dartmoor. I go frequently and the only litter I ever see is around the car parks. People who litter don't like walking or something.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's my biggest worry. The British public is incapable of being clean.

[–] 1nk@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Or stopping the populations addiction to disposable BBQs. Fuck those things

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say it's a smallish minority.

When people leave shit on the beach the whole place is tutting and bad mouthing them.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And yet the beaches in the UK are basically a landfill. I've never seen such dirty beaches anywhere in Europe. I mean, there are exceptions, yes, but overall I avoid British beaches as they are a health hazard.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience it's the tourists from the cities.

I live in Cornwall and during the off season they're fine.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're saying it like tourists from the cities are not Brits...

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are Brits. They're just emmets.

We get a couple million Brits down in Cornwall over the summer.

Which is terrifying as we only have one decent hospital which is always overcrowded before the emmets come down.

[–] ThePyroPython 2 points 1 year ago

Not to mention the sewage they dump on them.

[–] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Only beach I ever go to nowadays would be Bridlington. Still relatively clean, atleast it was last time I visited, and not too busy like Scarborough.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 14 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ruling on the appeal, Sir Geoffrey Vos, the master of the rolls, said wild camping counted as “open-air recreation” as allowed in the 1985 Dartmoor Commons Act.

The shadow environment minister, Alex Sobel, said: “Labour would legislate so that people visiting national parks have the right to wild camp, as well as expanding public access to woodlands and waterways.”

Similar models that enshrine the right to wild camp as part of a broader freedom to roam exist in Europe.

“Recognising the long tradition of this low-impact way of accessing and enjoying our protected landscapes, Campaign for National Parks believes there is a case for the creation of a rights-based approach to leave-no-trace wild camping on open access land in National p arks (England and Wales),” he said, “This would be contingent on the successful completion of trials to assess the impact of wild camping on communities and the local environment.

“As a minimum, this can be achieved through amending Crow to include wild camping as permissible outdoor recreation, with an accompanying responsible access code of conduct.”

We have an aim we would like to see in manifestos that every school child should have a right to have a night under the stars in a national park near to them, so they would realise from a young age why these landscapes are precious.


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[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure they'll change their mind at some point. Seems to be a common thing with them

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I'll take this over a government that has been dismantling democracy.

[–] mannycalavera 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait didn't the last Labour government want to increase detention without charge to 90 days or something?

[–] lasagna@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't surprise me. Does one thing prove they're worse than the current government that has been nonstop bad things? Whataboutism bs.

[–] mannycalavera 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not whataboutism, lad. It's offering the same amount of hand waiving low proof absolutism that the original comment offered 😂😂😂🤣.

[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You guys have twice the population and a 1/10th the land area of us Canadians and yet we need day and overnight passes for our national parks that we can only obtain through a lottery system 😭