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[–] pumpsnabben@sopuli.xyz 41 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I don't really understand why the US is even considering giving Ukraine cluster bombs. They are banned in a lot of countries for a reason and Russia was rightly criticized for using them.

[–] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (20 children)

The US, Russia, and Ukraine have not signed any bans on cluster munitions. Russia, is already using cluster munitions AND mines IN Ukraine.

If you're worried about civilian casualties, you SHOULD be worried about the MILLIONS of mines and cluster munitions Russia is already using IN Ukraine. Ukraine is more than well within their right, to use cluster munitions.

Additionally, Ukraine has NOT used their stockpile of cluster munitions, out of respect for this western ignorance that could be used by Russia against them. Like they're currently trying to do.

[–] libscratcher@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the United States called it a war crime when Russia started doing so. Pure hypocrisy.

[–] Arcterusax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

In international law any non proportional (military usage vs civilian casualties) use of force is prohibited. Russia used cluster ammunition in dense civilian areas, which is non proportional and thus a war crime. Its this specific useage that is a war crime not cluster ammunition in general.

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