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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (18 children)

There are certainly purposes for which one wants as much of the raw sensor readings as possible. Other than science, evidence for legal proceedings is the only thing that comes to mind, though.

I'm more disturbed by the naive views so many people have of photographic evidence. Can you think of any historical photograph that proves anything?

Really famous in the US: The marines raising the flag over Iwo Jima. It was staged for the cameras, of course. What does it prove?

A more momentous occasion is illustrated by a photograph of Red Army soldiers raising the soviet flag over the Reichstag. The rubble of Berlin in the background gives it more evidentiary value, but it is manipulated. It was not only staged but actually doctored. Smoke was added in the background and an extra watch on a soldier's arm (evidence of robbery) removed.

Closer to now: As you are aware, anti-American operatives are trying to destroy the constitutional order of the republic. After the last election, they claimed to have video evidence of fraud during ballot counting. On one short snippet of video, one sees a woman talking to some people and then, after they leave, pull a box out from under a table. It's quite inconspicuous, but these bad actors invented a story around this video snippet, in which a "suitcase" full of fraudulent ballots is taken out of hiding after observers leave.

As psychologists know, people do not think in strictly rational terms. We do not take in facts and draw logical conclusion. Professional manipulators, such as advertisers, know that we tend to think in "narratives". If a story is compelling, we like to twist neutral snippets of fact into evidence. We see what we believe.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Can you think of any historical photograph that proves anything?

Any photos from war zones.

Tienanmen Square images.

Moon landing.

To name a few that are IMO.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Any photos from war zones.

I gave 2 photos from war zones as examples. What do they prove and how?

[–] Mrkawfee 1 points 9 months ago

The one in Berlin illustrates the inevitable triumph of Communism over capitalist fascism. Obviously.

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