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[–] cheesebag@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I used to donate to Signal, and they made the stupidest fucking decision I've ever seen.

You used to be able to use signal (at least on Android) as your default messenger app, sending encrypted Signals to other users, or SMS to non-signal users. Have a normie family member who doesn't know about computers? Easy, set it & forget it.

Now? They removed that functionality, so it only works for other signal users. Someone else had a good metaphor: imagine if http and https needed different web browsers & you couldn't see one on the other. How well do you think https uptake would have been?

So fucking stupid.

[–] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I think that might be a narrow view though. Most of the world likely doesn’t use SMS anymore (for probably a decade). So removing SMS didn’t make much of a difference there, but increased security. Especially when people are used to use multiple apps anyways.

So the better analogy would be “imagine if gopher and http needed separate browsers”. Except they do.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most of the world likely doesn’t use SMS anymore

Wow, so I guess all the countries in the world that DO still use it primarily, including the US, most of Europe, canada, etc, can go screw themselves?

Nobody wins when you try to gatekeep security. Stop doing that.

[–] pallas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm aware of few people who use SMS in Europe, and very few people who use it as their primary means of texting; I've even seen people outright ask that they not be sent SMSs. WhatsApp is almost ubiquitous, and it often feels like it's assumed everyone has it, even if they don't use it as their primary texting method.

It does seem very common in the US, however.

[–] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. That’s my experience as well. I will also ask people to stop sending me SMS. The last time that happens was probably over 10 years ago though. Everyone I ever met (except for US folks) uses messengers nowadays. I mean even a lot of US folks use iMessage instead of SMS. Even though that’s weird as well. Since I would expect folks to use some universal app that isn’t restricted to a specific phone brand.

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