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I hate getting books for Christmas in general because I'm such a mood reader, and I've plastered a fake smile on my face many a time and repeated internally 'Its the thought that counts.' as I unwrap a book I will not read.

But the worst one by far, given to me by my own Mother , who I know loves me, when I was fourteen years old! was >!Men are from Mars Women are from Venus.!< I am sitting there horrified thinking what is she trying to tell me? As my sisters are flat on the floor laughing to the point of puking. We eventually came to the conclusion she just saw an attractive cover on a bestseller table and grabbed it. Love to know your terrible gift stories.

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[–] sugaredonut@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I was a young teenager and had finally found the courage to openly state I was an atheist. I was receiving some backlash from my religious family, but I was finally feeling confident enough to stay steady in my lack of belief. And a family member gifted me a book titled "Because God is Real" with 16 chapters "debunking" atheism. Lol!

[–] Mannwer4@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[–] QBaseX@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mannwer4@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is being rational insulting now?

[–] QBaseX@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know that thing you've clearly spent the last five years agonising over before eventually, tentatively, coming to a conclusion after much pondering, reading, research, and deliberation? Here's an introductory pamphlet on the topic!

The only reasonable response is "fuck off!"

[–] Mannwer4@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The thought of the gift here is a relative wanting to help the person rethink their position rationally. Jeez you guys are all really sensitive.

And its also really funny and naive how you think people arrive at their positions in this way lol.

[–] QBaseX@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should learn that proselytism is irritating and unwelcome. The more so if you are doing it in such a scattergun way.

[–] Mannwer4@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If that relative were to start pressuring them and making appeal to that persons supposed moral degeneracy or emotional arguments in general it would be bad. But exchanging rational arguments and books I can't see being bad, because it is an attempt at good faith argumentation most times - if not it is that at least in the very act of doing it.

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