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[–] TalkToTheLord@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (20 children)

Literally not a problem for anyone but Google, a company.

[–] SuperMazziveH3r0@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It can be an Apple issue if Androids market share diminishes to below 20%

Google has the money to lobby congress for antitrust suits and Apple may have to pay Google to keep Android alive

[–] MrMaleficent@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I'll never forget a few months ago on Reddit I saw a dude comment the only reason so many teenagers have iPhones is because they usually don't pay for it themselves, and they're gonna switch to Android when they get older.

[–] driftuntiloblivion@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It still boggles my mind that you can get in trouble because your competitors can't keep up with you or have a worse product than you. I get that this doesn't really happen often, but it's both funny and sad.

[–] Rhed0x@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It's the only reason Apple even exists today.

[–] No-Cockroach5860@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s a little more complicated than that. It’s not just a question of market share, but whether you use your market share to make it impossible for others to compete against you.

For example, Microsoft was getting itself into trouble in the late 90s because they essentially used their dominant position in the OS market to push Internet Explorer— making it next to impossible for other browsers at the time, like Netscape, to compete. For example, they made it difficult for other companies to install their software when their own competitive alternatives were included for free, and in some cases, impossible to remove (explorer was fully integrated into Windows at this time and you couldn’t remove it).

There are plenty of companies that essentially own entire markets. Google for example something like 85%. There’s nothing wrong with that.

[–] better_off_red@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Almost no one remembers you used to have to pay for Navigator, but they couldn't compete with free and built in IE.

[–] Speedstick2@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Heck with windows 95 you used to have to pay for IE, you had to get the Windows 95 plus package or you had to buy IE separately.

[–] TheReaver@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it still boggles my mind how people don't understand how a company having a monopoly isn't a good thing. prices go up, innovation goes down because you have no options.

[–] driftuntiloblivion@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is it a monopoly tho? There are shitload of smartphone companies and Android still has more users worldwide than iOS.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

We are talking about a hypothetical suit here, not an actual antitrust case

[–] JQuilty@alien.top 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

iMessage is vendor lock in, not being better. Apple is just as bad as 90s Microsoft on vendor lock in and EEE.

[–] Speedstick2@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

vendor lock in is not what you think it means.

[–] JQuilty@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I know full well what it means. Did you also sleep through the docs where Apple said they use iMessage as a way to prevent people from switching? What Apple does here is no different than Microsoft making using anything but IE on Windows in the 90s miserable. Or how to this day they keep obfuscating Office formats while pinky promising for real this time they'll support open document standards.

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