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I have never owned a gun, but have shot occasionally here and there on a shooting range. I understand the basics of gun safety and can get around the day-to-day of gun ownership. My wife and I are thinking about doing a full on safety training + CC so that both can use this gun we are purchasing in case anything happens.

I have been eyeing a few guns here and there, but wanted to get your thoughts on what would you recommend in my situation:

  • At least 12 bullets per mag as stock mag
  • Lowest recoil possible
  • Compact enough without it being an issue on accuracy (need something that is big enough to be accurate but small enough that I can CC from time to time, very occasionally)
  • Easy enough for my wife to handle. She's not into guns, but probably something that would throw her off is a lot of recoil
  • Comfortable grip

The guns that I have tested up until now:

  • Glock 19 Gen 5
  • S&W M&P M2.0

Guns I am still considering:

  • Sig Sauer P320
  • Sig Sauer P365 XL

Any thoughts?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

At least 12 bullets per mag as stock mag

I would advise not getting hung up on mag size.

If there's something you need to get done in 12 that you can't get done in 8 or 10, the mag size is not your #1 problem. :)

My daily CCW is the OG Ruger LCP with a laser sight. Extended mag gives me 7+1.

https://ruger.com/products/lcp/models.html

I've been eyeing the LCP Max which is 10+1 stock, but when it first came out there were quality control issues, I haven't heard if they ironed them out yet or not.

https://ruger.com/products/lcpMax/models.html

Extended mag for it brings it to 12+1.

Now I know, I know, ".380? Really?" So hear me out... not all .380 rounds are created equally. There's this guy on Youtube who ran through a BOATLOAD of different brands running side by side comparisons. Something insane like 20+ videos in the series JUST on .380.

His conclusion here:

https://youtu.be/GNtPHYwcDts

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

My completely unscientific experience with an LCP MAX is that if it starts out cleaned, it will reliably shoot at least 3 mags. I have never had a failure to feed on the first mag of the day. However, something about it's action seems super rough on the brass, and brass powder and flakes build up very quickly inside the gun. Because of that, after a number of mags I will begin getting feeding issues. I've watched for this pattern and it has consistently happened numerous times for me. I clean it, and more brass than I've ever seen on any other pistol comes out.

This is not exactly ideal, but for a CC pistol with only one magazine carried it doesn't seem to be a practical issue.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, the primary issue I kept hearing at launch was NIB guns with rust(!) Which is unacceptable especially since the LCP and LCP II were solid.

[–] exploding_whale@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The LCP did have some teething issues mostly the recall of early models for drop safety issues. That was 2008 when they were first introduced.

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