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On September 15, the United Auto Workers began a targeted strike against Ford, GM, and Stellantis (the conglomerate that includes Chrysler) in an effort to secure higher wages, a four-day work week, and other protections in the union’s next contract. The strike is a huge development for American workers, but it’s also a big deal for President Joe Biden—these car companies are central to his green-infrastructure agenda. The union wants assurances that the industry’s historic, heavily subsidized transition toward electric vehicles will work for them, too.

Biden, whose National Labor Relations Board has been an ally of labor organizers in fights against companies such as Amazon and Starbucks, has called himself “the most pro-union president in American history.” He has expressed support for the UAW’s cause (workers “deserve their fair share of the benefits they helped create,” he said last week) and has sent aides to Michigan to assist in the negotiations.

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[–] kaput@jlai.lu 51 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Didn't he severely fuck the train workers unions a few months ago, or did I get that wrong?

[–] the_toeknee@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's wild to me that Biden broke the strike then got them the tiniest fucking concession afterwards and people think that's an argument that he somehow was on the side of the union the whole time. Getting 4 sick days a year is absolutely nothing compared to the whole list of grievances and it's embarrassing that people bring this up in response to him breaking the strike.

[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Huh. It's really weird to read stuff like this. Just reminds me how lucky I am to not be in the US... with my legally mandated 10 days a year and all...

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If he was a Republican he would have them all fired and nationally ban unions. So, there’s that.

[–] protist@mander.xyz -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The sick leave is what lead directly to the strike vote, all the union sources from the time are clear on that. What else did you think they were planning to strike over?

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you listened to what the organizers were saying leading up to the potential strike, the sick days were used to sell the strike to the public since it was just the easiest to understand and most cartoonishly ghoulish points. The terrible Implementation of "precision scheduled railroading" and the reduction in staffing, ridiculous on call times, and weird attendance point systems that it brought was the actual impetus for the strike.

[–] protist@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 year ago

Precision Scheduled Railroading, a system that made them do safety checks much much faster, requiring less workers check more cars (among other things). Overwork and declining safety, potentially a factor in recent derailment number increases such as East Palestine.

Also he only got them a small fraction of the sick days they were asking for.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A fraction of the paid sick days they were asking for, while also not meeting their other major demands at all. Ending Precision Scheduled Railroading was a big one. Still going on.

They stopped them from striking and potentially making greater gains, then tossed them some crumbs.

They should have stayed the hell out of it or used the government's power to stop the rail companies not the strikers.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well Congress did vote on a bill to give rail workers 7 days of sick leave at the same time as the vote preventing the strike. One bill got enough Republican support to pass, the other didn't. If there were more Democrats in Congress, the outcome would have been more favorable to the unions, hands down

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the cool thing about strikes is congress doesn't have to vote for a company to give in to the demands of the workers. As a matter of fact congress has fuck all to do with it

[–] protist@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

Congress has the authority to require a company to give in to the demands of the workers, just not enough people in it who are willing to vote to do it

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If they'd not intervened AT ALL they could've gotten even more by striking.

Or even better just make a reasonable amount of sick days federal law for all, and also put better safety legislation for trains.

[–] protist@mander.xyz -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok, and at real risk to many thousands of other people's jobs when the rail system ground to a halt. When nurses go on strike, it's expected more expensive travel nurses are going to step in to do patient care, because otherwise innocent people will be harmed. UAW goes on strike, no one steps in to take over because all that happens is corporate revenue starts to suffer, car prices may go up, repair parts may become harder to find or more expensive.

If rail workers go on strike, the entire United States manufacturing sector grinds to a halt, plus serious impact on imports/exports, military readiness, and even food availability. Inflation would almost immediately have become much worse. Right wing and corporate media would have been running rampant with anti-union stories because public sentiment would have quickly shifted against the strike once the implications became clear. All this is ok though, because after devastating the US economy, the rail workers walk away with a slightly better contract than this one?

[–] skulbuny@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the entire US economy necessitates oppressing rail workers, then yes, rail workers striking is a good thing. It sounds like they are extremely important, according to you, and should be listened to.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Then get the asshole executives to compromise instead? Why is the blame here being put on the workers being exploited?

[–] drdalek13@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, gotta pull and old Reddit classic here:

This

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How does that not sound like a complete violation of the constitution. "We voted to give you 7 days to not work somtimes and in exchange took your right to not work"

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

As a side note. It is so fucked up limited paid sick days are a thing

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