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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Bullshit. Overpopulation is a neocolonialist myth about why developed countries get to keep doing the same thing and mid&low-income countries have to cut emissions while somehow also fulfilling their debt obligations to the high income countries by being their slaves.

The overconsumption of high income countries is mainly driven by their own wealth inequality & the sheer greed of every industry not population either.

[–] maketotaldestr0i@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your argument that overconsumption is the culprit but not population doesn't make sense when the equation is (Population X Consumption)= Environmental impact.

There is no consumption without the population.

And virtually all the published everything about overpopulation is fully onboard that first world consumption needs to come down and 3rd world needs to go up to be fair.

Why does everyone think talking about overpopulation means you are hitler looking for lebensraum?

[–] TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

You deliberately misunderstood what I said lol

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