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[–] echodot 40 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Yes this they used to use wheel spinal fluid as a base for perfumes. Because of course they did.

I think that practise was banned years ago mostly because it isn't remotely sustainable.

Iceland has this weird thing about wailing. You see all these whaling ships right alongside whale tour boats. It's like they sort of get it but can't quite get over the culture of whale hunting.

Which in fairness is part of their culture but they have a Costco there now as well so...

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 28 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Genociding Native Americans and slavery are part of American culture too, but we mostly stopped that.

Would you accept "ItS tHEiR cUlTuRe" if someone decides whaler hunting is part of their history?

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Are you seriously comparing the responsible hunting of a sustainable number of minke whales to the deliberate genocide of an indigenous population?

[–] Hankaaron@yall.theatl.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is no such thing as sustainable or responsible whaling.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Believe what you want. You've already decided that you are both offended and correct, so there's nothing that anyone can say to change your mind. Just understand that not listening doesn't make you right, it makes you a zealot.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mink whaling is more responsible and sustainable than a lot of commercial fishing - compare the impacts of hunting a species that's classified as "least concern" with deep-sea trawling, the hunting of certain endangered species of tuna, or the use of the eggs and/or young spawn of endangered fish as caviar or whitebait!

Whaling definitely needs to go but (non-Antarctic) whaling gets an oversized amount of attention and it's not unusual for people who are opposed to it to be financially supporting even more destructive forms of kaimoana.

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Simply being "not as bad" does not make it "good."

This is just providing masculine jobs for guys who won't do anything else, while enriching the terrible people who employ them. There's no use to whaling.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I very intentionally did not say that whaling is good, because it's not. However, I believe that it is hypocritical to call for the banning of Icelandic whaling without also applying the same zeal to banning other forms of harmful commercial seafood, and that whaling is somewhat used to distract from the harms of more "normal" seafood.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Or just standard livestock farming. I personally think that if people want to eat meat they should have to kill the first animal they eat in order to get a licence to eat meat.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Actually, Norway and Iceland have good gender equality. I'm pretty sure a lot of the whalers are women.

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