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Fucking hell, this again.
Listen, you people need to realize a lot of people are here on Lemmy because Reddit screwed them over, not because Lemmy is open source or less of a privacy issue or whatever your reasons for using it are.
So you hate Discord. That's fine, you're allowed to! But pitching a fit because everyone else doesn't hate it isn't gonna convince anyone to stop using it.
I don't hate Discord, but I do hate that they seem to require my phone number. I tried joining Discord over a year ago. Upon first log in they claimed that there was suspicious activity that required me to verify the account by giving them my phone number. This was from a computer, I never even visited the site on my phone let alone use the mobile app. I gave up and forgot about until a few months ago and decided to try again. They still wanted my phone number, email wasn't good enough. I contacted their support email and was told that there was no other option but to provide a phone number and that they couldn't override it. So I told them to delete my account and that I would never use their service. It took two weeks for them to do it.
There are very few situations in which an app needs my phone number in my eyes. And a chat application is not one of them. Just like I refused to use the official Reddit app because it wanted access to my contacts and location. I am not a super privacy nut, but the whole hog approach of gathering my info is not acceptable. I would rather pay for the service. I would have paid for Reddit if they had gone that route rather than dropping 3rd Party apps. Instead I'm on Lemmy.
So fucking hell yes, this again.
There are alternatives to Discord.
Your requirement to use software is based around whether or not it requires your phone number for verification?
Man some people draw really weird lines.
What makes it a weird line for them to draw?
are you in the uk? Cause that might make a difference. I'm in the US and a lot of apps use phone numbers for log in.
I understand a large number of apps request phone number to log in, but that doesn't explain why it's a weird line to draw to not engage with that.
so you don't understand that it's been normalized?
That's why its a weird line to draw. Cause its considered normal here.
I understand it's been normalized. I'm trying to figure out my hangup with the word "weird"... I guess ultimately I don't consider it weird for someone to stand against something that's normalized.
I mean, I agree with that for some things. Like I think its fucking weird that people do celebrity worship, but that's also considered pretty normal.
but I think in the case of using your phone number to sign in, it's normalized because its been shown to work as a log in/sign up method. In the US phone numbers are treated like a form of ID as you're assumed to have a phone in your name, that can be attached to you and your identity. It's so common place that it's encouraged to do things that way - so its weird to draw the line there because its then also preventing you from using something, even though the only hold up is that it's something most people do with no issue.