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This is Conan. Gets into too much trouble on his own so he has to wear a leash out on walks.

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[โ€“] communist@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

It's good that they are indoor cats, but whether or not the article is personal is irrelevant, the point is the amount of havoc they're causing. They're an invasive species, they kill 1.4-3.7 BILLION birds and 6.9-20.7 billion mammals in the US alone annually.

They are in fact, the most damaging invasive species in history, and we feed and house them to ensure they keep going, the fact of the matter is we're letting loose efficient little murder machines, and that isn't the cats fault, its ours. We shouldn't allow people to keep invasive species outdoors, the ecosystem is vital.

[โ€“] KingPyrox@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Cool story bro. Don't really care though, humans will more than likely kill the birds before cats do ๐Ÿ˜‰ guess we should rid the world of that invasion species too

[โ€“] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Let's remember to be(e) accountable for how we converse with each other. I think you posted a lovely picture, and hope that you regularly bring your indoor cats, well, indoors when you're not able to keep an eye on them in the yard like a responsible human.

[โ€“] KingPyrox@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Accountable for what? Saying that humans are an invasive species? We are

[โ€“] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's about participation in a group conversation, and one where we recognize that it's not generally okay to continue to shout at each other when there's other folks trying to have a nice time. I'm willing to presume that you keep your cats monitored, and nothing you've said here would suggest that's not the case. You could, given the circumstances, suggest people take an active role in monitoring a species many of us love that is also notably dangerous for other animals.

[โ€“] KingPyrox@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do realize that the majority of users have come from Reddit right?

[โ€“] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

That's a different space, with a different set of expectations. There will obviously be some overlap in online behaviors, but escalation-as-conversation on the internet is nothing unique to reddit. It's just not a necessary comparison here, or at least not germane to our interaction here. You're not the only one I've reminded to be accountable in this thread, and I intentionally tagged you to show that. You can see @communist@beehaw.org responded to my reminder, and I think if it can't be hashed out I'll have to.

You're both free to disengage here too.

[โ€“] communist@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This does not seem like an argument made in good faith.

You must know there's a difference between people living places, and encouraging the spread of invasive species.

[โ€“] KingPyrox@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wasn't trying to have an argument. Given the context of the post I was just trying to showcase my own pets for the sake of joining in the joy of animals. You are the one that decided to try to force your own views on to my comment. I truly do not care about what you've presented. Hense the antagonistic responses

[โ€“] Notnotmike@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it'll help or not, but I think a lot of this boils down to a misunderstanding

  • OP has a cat on a harness, which allows the person holding the leash to prevent the cat from killing birds or entering dangerous areas
  • You posted a picture of your cats (which are adorable by the way) but without context, outdoors off-leash
  • Communist saw cats off-leash outdoors, and wanted to advocate for keeping cats indoors, since they weren't aware your cats are indoor

They just didn't know that your cats are indoor cats, and wanted to advocate for something that they (and myself) are passionate about (keeping cats indoors to help prevent ecological damage).

It seems to have escalated from there, and I'd love it to get back to square one and get the conversation back to positivity! We can all be friends :)

[โ€“] communist@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It seems odd to me to antagonize something you don't care about. The point was not to upset you, or to say that you're doing a bad job, I simply believe it is important to raise awareness about the subject of keeping cats outdoors.

I'm not trying to attack or upset you. I'm sorry it came off that way.

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