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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/6853479

mastodon.art has decided to suspend firefish.social from their instance due to issues with its administrator. The administrator of firefish.social was found to be boosting posts from a known harasser on another instance. mastodon.art takes a firm stance against racism and suspending full instances in these situations is part of their policy as a safe space. The known harasser has a history of using slurs, harassment, and editing screenshots to spread misinformation. However, the administrator of firefish.social has now forged a screenshot to paint mastodon.art in a negative light.

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[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

The article is not a problem.

From what I seem to understand, the "problem" is that someone got accused of being a Nazi sympathizer because they boosted the article, that had been posted by someone accused of being a Nazi, which made the .art admin want to defederate from all of them due to some (not clear) previous history they might have... but it just happens that the "sympathizer" is also the developer of a relatively popular Fediverse project and instance, so by blocking them by association, they're also by-association-by-association blocking a lot of people who couldn't care less about who develops the software.

If smells a bit like when people wouldn't want to check out Lemmy because the Lemmy devs host a "tankie" instance.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be fair...

There are alternatives to Lemmy. Kbin, I'd argue, is superior in most respects. (Kbin is still obviously young and rough around the edges at times, though.)

I don't like the Lemmy maintainers, and that was a big jump propelling me onto Kbin. It just made me feel squicky knowing that I was tacitly endorsing their software by using it when there was an alternative available that did exactly the same things. I also don't like using communities on Lemmy.ml because the admins there have a history of removing stuff that doesn't suit their political views.

I don't think these two situations are equivalent, mind, but I do think there is more weight behind "avoid using Lemmy" than "avoid using Calckey/Firefish".

[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There are alternatives to Lemmy. Kbin, I’d argue, is superior in most respects. (Kbin is still obviously young and rough around the edges at times, though.)

I try to use both equally, because I'm always on the hook for picking the "doomed" standard in any 50/50 contest. It's easier to read stuff from other instances in kbin, and that gives it the appearance of more frequent and more current activity; lemmy, even on "All/Active" or "All/Hot", frequently drops 30 threads from one dude at the top of my feed, or I have three pages of threads with no comments and 6 upvotes. So even though I hate how kbin handles viewing pictures thumbnails (click on the post, wait for everything to load, click on the thumbnail, wait for it to load, chuckle, then x out of the picture to read the comments), I end up spending more time there.

[–] chinpokomon@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I try to use both equally, because I’m always on the hook for picking the “doomed” standard in any 50/50 contest.

I can relate to that. It usually isn't a coin flip for me though. I'll align with some technology over another because I truly can see an advantage. That technology might be the underdog from the beginning. Consider that we're evaluating Firefish vs. Lemmy vs. Kbin whereas all of them combined are the underdog for certain more well established social forums. I engage with all three (and others still), because I don't know the future.

[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Consider that we’re evaluating Firefish vs. Lemmy vs. Kbin

There's a third one I didn't know about?

That's gonna be the one to take off. Put your chips on Firefish. It's always the one I'm not using.

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