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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (17 children)

A strawman is what I was replying to. I'm not the dipshit with a comprehension problem here.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Correct. Good thing that my comment was a hyperbolic denunciation of a clear pattern of actual attitudes and behaviors rather than a blame shifting strawman like the one I was replying to.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna refer back to my earlier comment

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And you're thus continuing to be wrong.

Deliberate and obvious hyperbole to emphasize a valid point is NOT a strawman, nor is it equivalent.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You think if you can justify a strawman, it isn't one.

That's not how it works.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

..are you going for a record in hypocrisy and stubborn ignorance or something?

What you just said was a strawman in defense of a categorically false claim.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First off, with all this philosophy larping, there's a thing called "the fallacy fallacy", which states it' fallacious to imply someone is wrong simply because their logic was fallacious.

Secondly, me reminding you of how these things work doesn't mean I'm suddenly "defending a false claim", especially not with strawmen.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First off, with all this philosophy larping, there's a thing called "the fallacy fallacy", which states it' fallacious to imply someone is wrong simply because their logic was fallacious

It is, however, never a fallacy to point out that a fallacious accusation of fallacy is false. Now say that three times quickly.

Secondly, me reminding you of how these things work doesn't mean I'm suddenly "defending a false claim", especially not with strawmen.

It is when, as in this case, are wrong about "how these things work" and also about what's even going on. Just take the L and move on, dude. We've both wasted far too much time on your bullshit already.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Larp all you want, that won't make your comment at the top of this thread be any less fallacious.

Me pointing out that it was fallacious, which it is, doesn't mean I'm engaging in the argument. It just means I'm tired of people like you larping they know philosophy when they can barely be bothered to skim the Wikipedia entries on the subject.

I'm not wasting time. I'm enjoying my time on Lemmy. Aren't you?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps if you didn't treat conversations as competitions, you might actually learn what those fallacies you never read about actually mean.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See, now you're in "the spiral". You can't address the actual thing you said anymore, have expressed that you feel like you're "wasting time", but for some reason, you feel like you have to keep replying, despite having to resort to spamming memes.

It's okay to just leave a thread, you know?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't address the actual thing you said anymore

I could but I don't want to keep repeating myself just because you don't understand. If you don't get it the sixth time, you won't suddenly understand the seventh.

but for some reason, you feel like you have to keep replying, despite having to resort to spamming memes.

That reason is ADHD. That and the fact that it's annoying that you keep lying at me. Confidently idiotic people irk me.

It's okay to just leave a thread, you know?

You first. It's not like you ever contributed anything to it except butting in to lie about my true statements anyway.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I could but I don't want to

"I totally have a girlfriend. No you wouldn't know her, she's Canadian. "

(See this is a strawman, much like the one you used earlier itt.)

Confidently idiotic people irk me.

Me2 man. Perhaps stop being one?

You're the type who first of all sees these things as competitions, ("take the L, bro"), secondly, you think all you have to do to "win" a debate is to point out a fallacy.

You're probably in the camp of people who think insults mean ad hominem? :D

You started this thread with a strawman you then claim isn't a strawman, because of the intent you had while making it+

Oh now I realise what you're doing. You genuinely think I'm as intellectually lazy and ingenuine as you, so you think I too am trying to bullshit my way through this?

I can refer back to any comment. Like the one which you try to assert that me pointing out your strawman... is a strawman?

Okay then. What's the weak version of the argument I made to attack, and oh yeah, what argument is it that I'm trying to attack in the first place?

Oh you don't have one, or have to come up with them, post hoc? It is somewhat amusing.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're wrong, you've been wrong from the start, and you haven't contributed anything except being wrong and obnoxious.

Just leave me the fuck alone.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

Well I'm not wrong in what I said about fallacies, but yeah, sure.

Enjoy your weekend.

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