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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 days ago (39 children)

Lashing out against neoliberals isn't useful. The MAGA movement are the fascists.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 days ago (29 children)

i will lash out against everyone unapologetically funding genocide, thank you very much ❤️

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago (28 children)

Biden wasn't running for president. Harris wanted to end the war. Trump wanted Israel to finish the job. Accelerationist rhetoric hurt the Democratic Party's chances of winning at the expense of your goal to help the Palestinians. Now the genocide will be allowed to continue indefinitely.

You're free to debilitate yourself as much as you want. Could you like, stop though. Please?

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The amount of votes Harris lost compared to Biden 4 years ago can not be explained by accelerationism. Tbh I wish the left in the US was so big as to affect so many voters. Harris lost because she run a bad campaign. Her message did not appeal to the masses because it was centrist bullshit that would not improve anyone’s life in a meaningful way. She also alienated a huge part of her arab voterbase by clearly not giving a fuck about arab lives. Instead of condemning genocide she promised to keep supporting Israel. Trump also promised to end the war, that should tell you something about what those words mean.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

We have a democracy for as long as we can keep it. There's a good chance we just lost it. There's no sense in giving up our agency because neoliberals are institutionalists. We knew what the Democrats were. Our options this cycle ended up being Harris or fascism. The goal was to get Harris elected to stop fascism for four more years. Instead of doing everything in their power to help get Harris elected, accelerationists did everything in their power to sink Harris's campaign. We broke our only tool over our knee and threw it away because it wasn't a better tool. Doing so wasn't useful. edit: typo

Now people are beating a dead horse. Neoliberals are neoliberals. Fascists are fascists. Spend this energy attacking the MAGA movement.

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s useless to attack maga in a space where everyone agrees it’s shit. However I see lots of people on here acting like Harris isn’t complicit in genocide.

I mean finding ways to attack the MAGA movement that convinces people to vote for Harris. There are people on lemmy who aren't as politically engaged or as far left as we would hope. But more importantly, this is a space to spread ideas which can then be spread to the wider internet.

Biden is complicit, because he's the president and it was his decision. She's the vice president, who does not have that power, so she's not.

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