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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (72 children)

The dem message of "we won't do better but the other guy will do worse" failed. It was a bad message and it lost them the election against a terrible candidate. Voters need to be motivated to vote and that message isn't motivating enough

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Right, it wasn't the media harping on every single thing the Dem candidate did wrong while apologizing and making excuses for Trump at every turn. Going on and on about Biden's age and then never bringing up age again once Biden dropped out of the race. No it's all the Dems fault 🙄

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Cool, so what's your plan for addressing bias in the media?

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wtf kind of dumbass question is that? Do you think I'm Rupert Murdoch?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, if that's why the democrats lost, and there's nothing that can be done to address it without being Rupert Murdoch, then are the democrats just destined to lose forever?

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So do you have a suggestion or just criticism?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I agree with what MisterScruffy said. There were things that actually were within the democrats control that they could have done differently that would have allowed them to win. Blaming external factors outside of anyone's control that you have no solution for addressing is completely unproductive, and just an excuse.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The media is outside of my control but there are certainly people who are in control and I will put the blame on them that they will deserve. Bizarre take, dude.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago

At that point, why not just say, "Harris lost because Trump didn't drop out of the race and endorse her?" Completely useless analysis.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Did you watch the first debate where Biden could hardly speak a sentence? They were right about Biden's age. And they knew that Trump voters would never listen to them so what's the point of going after him over and over?

At the end of the day the blame falls mostly on the campaign and on the party and they failed. They have to do better than this or they'll fail again.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Biden is two years older than Trump. Trump is 20 years older than Harris. You are completely sidestepping the point made by the person you're replying to.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I didn't sidestep. first of all "the media" did bring up trumps age I remember seeing it talked about. Also Biden's age was a problem. Blaming this loss on the media is like blaming the refs when you lose a game. Yeah they might've been bad refs but it's your job to win the game regardless. The way the media treats trump is not new and if the Dems didn't take that into account that was their mistake

Blaming this loss on the media is like blaming the refs when you lose a game

Closer to blaming the commentator. Nevertheless, I still like this analogy.

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