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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (19 children)

The bad guys have definitely learned a new sort of trick. Haven't wrapped my head around it yet, but it is bad, innit?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

According to some reports the dems simply stayed home and he even lost votes compared to 2020

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

The thing that's most baffling to me is how the difference in ground game had zero impact. We were pounding the pavement, doors got fuckin knocked. The GOP did less than zero, firing their entire staff responsible for in-person outreach and gave 100 million to PACs run by grifters who put it directly into their own pockets.

Unless we've missed a trick, retail politics as it has existed is dead.

[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It was twitter. Elon Musk joins Trump's team. What happens? Harris' chances begin to drop.
Trump did lose support, but there was probably enough propaganda on Twitter to make enough people go "both sides" and just sit out the election.

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and of course, Twitter and Facebook style influence campaigns work just as well or even better elsewhere, in communities that haven’t hardened themselves against that type of bullshit

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

2/3 of regular users don't use adblock, cambridge analytica may be disbanded as a company, but the approach they made still is a thing

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

IDK, do you really think twitter still has that much cultural relevance? ugh

I'm sure it played a part, though.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

facebook is still big somehow and i see no reason why shrimp jesus irradiated brains of boomer population would be not susceptible to it like it was still 2016

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ten years ago, I naively thought that people might grow a sort of mental callus against online bullshit. Big L for me! Turns out that there's no such thing as magical self-assembling media literacy.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago

Given that Trump lost votes compared to 2020, I think it's past the peak of its relevance. Not many new people are entering the self-referential echo chamber. It's one of the main vectors for crypto and meme stock scams, as well as the main vector for Musk himself. When all those promises are broken once again, fatigue will start to set in among the bluechecks. It may linger, but it will be a spent force by the end of the decade. Keep up social pressure to get people to leave.

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