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[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 week ago (12 children)

"stalinist" is only used by those opposed to ML tho.

[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (11 children)

As I said ML is not a valid term in my opinion and historically it was used after the establishing and banning of the "left opposition", especially by Stalin. After splits here and there between the soviet union and other countries, where everyone claimed to be the true continuation of ML, I prefer to differ this way. And since other splits after Lenin's dead also claimed to be the true successors of Lenin, I think it is more accurate to handle it this way

[–] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

As I said ML is not a valid term in my opinion and historically it was used after the establishing and banning of the “left opposition”, especially by Stalin.

Stalin, you say? The Cuban, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean and many African revolutions were all led by people who called themselves Marxists-Leninists. Strange coincidence, huh? It's like "Lenin" had a massive importance in terms of revolutionary practice, perhaps?

[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And? Lenin had and has still massive importance even for groups who splitted with the SU or those opposition right or left which where there for a while. So answer me, what are you trying to imply? And of course Stalin, because he is an important figure. ML simply don't just refer to Marx and Lenin and I already wrote about that more concrete in another comment of mine

[–] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So answer me, what are you trying to imply?

I'm implying that those who care too much about trying to remove the "Leninist" from Marxist-Leninist are people who do not understand the importance of Lenin. Or perhaps they do and they are doing on purpose like classic revisionists. First comes "why Leninism?" before "why Marxism?"

[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I don't want to be rude, but where the fuck did I want remove especially Lenin in his importance? I am talking about, that ML is simply not concrete enough and therefore not a term I can work with, only use it in a vague definition, where I ignore the others important figures after him, which added unique thoughts and theories. Referring to myself and talking about communism, the term "marxism" is still something I prefer to use, you can not think about marxism without Lenin. In another comment I explained, that I still use ML where it is needed so someone can still understand me. I don't see any proof, that the way how I handle it is anywhere some revisionist move, where I want to remove Lenin and then probably Marx. The only thing I see is, that I use marxism or some term which can cover the uniqueness of a important person in the history of ML

[–] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, I don’t want to be rude, but where the fuck did I want remove especially Lenin in his importance?

Right in the fuck where you insist Marxism-Leninism is not a valid term. I don't care if you use "Marxist" with your friends and family, but I do care if you claim it's not a valid term and use the shittiest explanation ever to defend that. We've seen revisionists and opportunists everywhere in history trying their best to distance themselves from Lenin, only to distance themselves from Marx later on. Fuck off with that bullshit.

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